1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

The "Socialists utopia" is an anti-free speech country that blacklists anyone that speaks out.......

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RocketsLegend, May 17, 2017.

  1. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    35,052
    Likes Received:
    15,226
    Still scratching my head about what the problem is.
     
    FranchiseBlade likes this.
  2. pirc1

    pirc1 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2002
    Messages:
    14,137
    Likes Received:
    1,882
    Would your Swedish friends be willing to give up their citizenship to come to the US? I know some Danish people who came to the US but were unwilling to give up their citizenships.
     
  3. RocketsLegend

    RocketsLegend Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    6,619
    Likes Received:
    1,529
    Socialism creates authoritarian government and that follows with censorship oppression of free speech. Don't be so damn naive.
     
  4. RocketsLegend

    RocketsLegend Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    6,619
    Likes Received:
    1,529
    I'll quote Tim Pool.

    "Being blocked by their Sweden twitter account isn't the biggest deal in the world but it's imporatant that we remain vigilent because
    one thing leads to another and we have to call out this extremists behavior before it's institutionalized
    in a more dramatic way."
     
  5. generalthade_03

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2003
    Messages:
    3,662
    Likes Received:
    707
    It's tone deaf attitude like this no wonder you guys took a thrashing on the last election. Why do you think the American people did not trust the polls or some bullshiet studies and voted for Mr Trump? You can dismiss my anecdotal evidence all you want but that does not mean it's not true. Like I've said to the other poster, take a trip to Sweden now if you don't believe me.
     
  6. SWTsig

    SWTsig Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2002
    Messages:
    14,053
    Likes Received:
    3,744
    we literally had a poster in this same thread provide his own anecdotal evidence expect he's visit FAMILY SEVERAL TIMES.... why would your random one-off anecdote with relative strangers weigh more heavily than that?
     
  7. RocketsLegend

    RocketsLegend Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    6,619
    Likes Received:
    1,529
    And of course everyone misses the point of this thread.Why do so many liberals play stupid when it comes to some social issues but then turn in SJW's at the first moment of opportunity when they can blame you know who.
     
  8. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,681
    Likes Received:
    16,205
    It's not extremist behavior. Everyone blocks people they don't like on Twitter. You seem to think other people should be required to read your racist BS and shouldn't have the freedom to read what they want. Why is that? You seem quite fascist.
     
  9. RocketsLegend

    RocketsLegend Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    6,619
    Likes Received:
    1,529
    Future of United States if ever let someone like Bernie in power

    [​IMG]
     
  10. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    35,052
    Likes Received:
    15,226
    I googled "democracy index" and found this link: https://freedomhouse.org/report/fre...WnjLxpIoNjpS3a81xGKxAaE8sgsdm0PGqdRoCZEnw_wcB

    Look at those scores:

    Sweden: 100
    Finland: 100
    Norway: 100
    US: 89
    Canada: 99
    Mexico: 65
    UK: 95
    France: 90
    Germany: 95
    Israel: 80

    and for some contrast:
    Russia: 20
    China: 15
    Iran: 17
    North Korea: 3
    Syria: -1 (yes, negative one)

    I don't know those guys from Adam but they do have some pretty graphs.

    Here's another one from The Economist Intelligence Unit. It scores Sweden pretty high ("full democracy"), including a civil liberties score of 9.41 (out of 10). The US is a "flawed democracy." We'd been recently downgraded because of the erosion of trust in government. Our civil liberty score is pretty good compared to the other dimensions scored, but it's still only 8.24.

    The point being, regarding Sweden, that your idea that socialism leads to authoritarianism leads to censorship is some Red Scare bullshit that probably should have died with Joe McCarthy. Swedish socialism is nothing like the communism of the Soviet Union or the People's Republic of China.
     
    dmoneybangbang likes this.
  11. RocketsLegend

    RocketsLegend Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    6,619
    Likes Received:
    1,529
    You're really are dunce, aren't you. God have mercy on this country if people like you are our future.

    It's not just someone who created blacklist! IT'S A GOVERNMENT AGENCY. It's not just racist on this list. THEY'RE JOURNALISTS WHO REPORT NEWS, AMBASSADORS, BLOGGERS.

    How the hell would anyone excuse this? WTF is wrong with you people?
     
  12. RocketsLegend

    RocketsLegend Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    6,619
    Likes Received:
    1,529
    What a phony list. If a country has speech laws then it should be no where near that list. You can even get arrested for commenting online. Sweden has a authoritarian government and kids still defend it.
     
  13. Ottomaton

    Ottomaton Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2000
    Messages:
    19,181
    Likes Received:
    15,315
    I'm guessing everything you know about Sweeden you learned in 10 minutes from listening to Sean Hannity.

    A thousand years before the concept of socialism was even invented, when the ancestors of moderm Swedes were pillaging mainland Europe, they never had American free speech.

    The Scandinavian legal tradition, (which brings us concepts that we all know and love like jury trials) has always been one where the majority decides what is acceptable.

    And historically, limitations on free speech have been about protecting conservative institutions, like the monarch, the nobility, and state religious institutions and authorities.

    When you foolishly try and attribute that to socialism, you just prove how shallow and frivolous your knowledge of the world and its history is.
     
    #33 Ottomaton, May 17, 2017
    Last edited: May 17, 2017
  14. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    35,052
    Likes Received:
    15,226
    We should probably worry about the USA before we worry about Sweden, because we're further down the road than they are. We've built a system of mass incarceration of blacks, but we need to worry about the slippery slope of authoritarianism Sweden might be flirting with on twitter?
     
  15. TheRealist137

    TheRealist137 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Messages:
    35,424
    Likes Received:
    22,560
    I never said that your experiences weren't true. You are the one saying that other people's more positive experiences aren't true.
     
  16. generalthade_03

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2003
    Messages:
    3,662
    Likes Received:
    707
    The stupid is really strong in this thread coming from you lefties. There used to be a poster here that was so in love with Chavez and his Bolivarian, I can't think of that poster's name. I wonder where is he now? I'd like to hear what utter nonsense he has to say about socialism now.
     
    #36 generalthade_03, May 17, 2017
    Last edited: May 18, 2017
  17. RocketsLegend

    RocketsLegend Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    6,619
    Likes Received:
    1,529
    http://reason.com/archives/2016/04/18/bernies-rightamerica-should-be
     
  18. London'sBurning

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2002
    Messages:
    7,205
    Likes Received:
    4,817
    I think your next plane ride you should shout "I have a bomb!" and use your free speech after you tell everyone you were just kidding. Nothing bad will come from it because your Constitutional right to freedom of speech is there dawg! Fight the man! Or online you should talk about assassinating a government official and see if you'd get arrested for "commenting online." Let's show these SJW what's up!
     
  19. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    55,794
    Likes Received:
    55,868
    You seriously want to equate Sweden blocking hate speech on their twitter feed to the president of the United States getting accused of obstruction of justice and sharing sensitive intel with the Russians?
     
  20. generalthade_03

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2003
    Messages:
    3,662
    Likes Received:
    707
    I've never said that. I responded to the other poster who asked me about Sweden because it was high on his list. I've never said the other poster's more positive experience about Sweden was not true.
     

Share This Page