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"The Sniper"

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  1. The Real Shady

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    John Allen Mohammad.

    If he is the sniper or not it's starting to look like the work of Muslim terrorist.
     
  2. gr8-1

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    Aren't there blacks in France?
     
  3. The Real Shady

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    CAUGHT!

    Police just picked up these two guys sleeping in their car at a rest stop. Hopefully this is all over!
     
  4. Rockets34Legend

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    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...1&u=/ap/20021024/ap_on_re_us/sniper_shootings

    U.S. National - AP
    Two Men Arrested in Sniper Case
    1 minute ago

    FREDERICK, Md - Two men were arrested early Thursday in connection with the serial sniper attacks, authorities said.

    Members of the sniper task force arrested two men inside a car at a rest stop off I-70 in Federick County, Md., at 3:19 a.m., said Larry Scott, an agent for the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Arms.

    http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=topnews&StoryID=1625186

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - At least two people have been arrested in connection with the investigation of the serial sniper blamed for 10 deaths in and around the U.S. capital, CNN and Fox News reported on Thursday.

    Police would not offer any details about the incident, but told Reuters they expected to hold a news conference sometime early on Thursday morning.

    Video footage aired by WUSA television showed heavily armed state police operating near Middletown, Maryland.

    The news reports said that at least two people were taken into custody. Police had said named a suspect late on Wednesday and said they were looking for a Chevy Caprice automobile in connection with the case.

    A seven-mile stretch of Interstate-70, a major highway leading from Baltimore, Maryland, to Pennsylvania, about 50 miles northwest of Washington in Frederick County, Maryland, was blocked off for hours before dawn on Thursday morning, amid major police activity.

    A law enforcement source told Reuters that the road closing was in connection with the sniper investigation and that there had not been a shooting, but would give no other details.
     
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  5. DCkid

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    I don't know how the Baltimore Sun gets this information...they must a have source, but here's what they found out. Apparently the killer called and said something like, "Take me seriously, check with the people in Montgomery." The police thought Montgomery County at first, but then they thought, maybe he's talking about Montgomery, Alabama. They checked with the Montgomery, AL police and discovered there was a shooting there on Sept. 21, and a flier was left behind at the scene. On the flier, there was a fingerprint that belonged to Lee Malvo. They connected Lee Malvo to a duplex in Tacoma, Washington, which is where they were searching yesterday. From this, they put out the the search on Malvo and his stepfather John Allen Muhammed, who were believed to be driving a Chevy Caprice with a New Jersey license plate. A witness who was driving through the DC area recognized the car based on the reports and called 911. The police came and arrested the two men, who were sleeping in the car.

    However, it sounds like after an initial search of the car, there was no gun found. They're going to comb the area.

    And what do you know, Muhammed was a Gulf War vet. It seems like this is all falling into place, but maybe it's just one <b>BIG</b> coincidence. Another thing is that the police believe a tree in the backyard of the duplex in Tacoma may have been used as target practice. They cut the tree down and are analyzing it right now.
     
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  6. Pole

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    I bet his name wasn't Muhammed in the Gulf War.
     
  7. Two Sandwiches

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    The kid they arrested must have been John Malvo, cuz I know the other was Muhommed.
     
  8. DCkid

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    His other name is John Allen Williams. Shown to have leanings towards Islamic fundamentalists, said to have sympathy for hijackers who crashed the plane in WTC, did not have a clean break with the US Military, etc. I'll be baffled if this isn't the guy.

    The earlier report I heard about the police not finding a gun in the car doesn't seem to be true. It just sounds like they're waiting for a search warrant to actually go in the car and look. Hurry the hell up! If they find the gun in the car, it's probably all over.
     
  9. 4chuckie

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    Something still seems fishy. TEh sniper seems to be always ahead of the police but then makes a mistake by bragging on a past killin gin Montgomery where the police find finger prints? Just seems too easy from someone who has been able to keep 2 steps ahead of the police.
    Also what about the quote about the noose around the neck of the duck (or whatever). On ABC News one of their reports was citing an old Indian tale where a rabbit put a noose around a ducks neck and prepares to pull him out, but the duck has a surprise for them.
    I hope these are the men, seems like everything says yes they are. I am just not 100% confident it isn't another set-up by the sniper to lead them in the wrong direction. If it is it is a brilliant move, if he did get caught then it does show he got too cocky (braging on past crimes).
     
  10. Two Sandwiches

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    Two Men Arrested in Sniper Case
    1 hour, 14 minutes ago
    By ALLEN BREED, Associated Press Writer

    FREDERICK, Md. (AP) - Two men wanted for questioning in the wave of deadly sniper attacks were arrested early Thursday after they were found sleeping in their car at a Maryland rest stop, authorities said.


    The arrests came amid a flurry of activity in the investigation of the attacks that have killed 10 people and wounded three others since Oct. 2.


    The break occurred hours after authorities descended on a home in Tacoma, Wash., that was believed to hold clues important to the investigation. They then issued a nationwide alert for the car, spotted by a motorist and an attendant at the rest stop.


    Members of the sniper task force arrested the men without incident at 3:19 a.m. off I-70 in Frederick County, Md., about 50 miles northwest of the nation's capital, said Larry Scott, an agent for the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.


    The men were arrested in a car that matched a description police gave at a midnight press briefing, said Maj. Greg Shipley, a spokesman for the Maryland State Police.


    "I don't know what their reaction was," Shipley said. "It wasn't an aggressive one."


    Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose, who is leading the investigation, said John Allen Muhammad, 42, was being sought for questioning in the slayings and called him "armed and dangerous." Muhammad was said to be traveling with a juvenile, identified by a law enforcement source as 17-year-old Lee Malvo.


    The relationship between Muhammad, who also goes by the name John Allen Williams, and the teen was not clear, but several newspapers reported that Malvo is Muhammad's stepson.


    A law enforcement source close to the investigation told The Associated Press that "I'm confident that these are indeed the people" sought in the killings.


    "The evidence is all there and because of things we've received in the communications," the source said on the condition on anonymity. "It fits together with evidence they've collected in the last couple days."


    Several federal sources told the Seattle Times that Muhammad and Malvo may have been motivated by anti-American sentiments in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks. Both were known to speak sympathetically about the men who hijacked jetliners over Washington, New York and Pennsylvania, the sources said.

    But neither man was believed to be associated with the al-Qaida terrorist network, sources said.

    The Times reported that Muhammed was stationed at Fort Lewis outside Tacoma in the 1980s, served in the Gulf War (news - web sites) and was later stationed at Fort Ord, Calif. Malvo, who authorities said is a citizen of Jamaica, attended high school in Bellingham, Wash., last year.

    Shipley said the men were being transported to Montgomery County, where the investigation is based.

    The witnesses at the rest stop called police at 1 a.m. after they spotted the men sleeping inside one of the cars sought in the investigation — a blue 1990 Chevrolet Caprice.

    Moose had cautioned that it shouldn't be assumed Muhammad is involved in any of the shootings that have stricken the Washington area since Oct. 2.

    On Wednesday, authorities opened two new avenues in the investigation: FBI (news - web sites) agents spent hours at the Tacoma home, eventually carting away a tree stump from the yard and other potential evidence in a U-Haul truck.

    And in Montgomery, Ala., Mayor Bobby Bright said federal authorities were investigating whether a fatal shooting there last month was linked to the sniper.

    Bright said a caller to the sniper investigation tip line apparently claimed responsibility for the sniper shootings and the Montgomery shooting Sept. 21. One woman was killed and another wounded.

    A law enforcement source told the AP that police found a piece of paper at the scene of the Alabama shooting that bore Malvo's fingerprints. Police then traced Malvo to the Tacoma home, where he had been living with Williams, a source told the AP.

    Late Wednesday night, Moose held a media briefing here he issued his latest cryptic message in his ongoing dialogue with the sniper.

    "You have indicated that you want us to do and say certain things. You've asked us to say, 'We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose.' We understand that hearing us say this is important to you," Moose said.

    He also expressed frustration at the failure to make contact despite the sniper's repeated attempts through "notes, indirect messages and calls to other jurisdictions." He asked the sniper to call.

    A Fort Lewis spokesman did not return a call for comment on whether Muhammad was stationed on the base.

    Felix Strozier, who ran a karate school with Williams in 1997 and 1998, said Williams told him he had been in the Army but did not say where.

    Pfc. Chris Waters, a Fort Lewis soldier who lives across the street from the Tacoma home, said he called police after hearing gunshots in the neighborhood nearly every day in January.

    "It sounded like a high-powered rifle such as an M-16," he said. "Never more than three shots at a time. Pow. Pow. Pow."

    Dean Resop, who lives a block away, said quite a few tenants had been in and out of the home.

    "Makes you want to watch your neighbors closer," said Resop, who has lived in the area seven years.

    FBI agents also visited Bellingham High School, 90 miles north of Seattle, on Wednesday. Mayor Mark Asmundson told the Bellingham Herald the agents were apparently seeking information on a male teenager who once attended the school and an older man. He said both left the area about nine months ago.




    Looks like it might be them.....
     
  11. DCkid

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    The duck starts flying away lifting the rabbit off the ground and the rabbit is forced to let go, or so the tale goes.
     
  12. Castor27

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    According to a local news source I heard on the radio. The sniper asked that money be transfered to a Credit Card. THe card was traced to the Alabama robbery and the two men arrested were in possesion of the cards.


    CK
     
  13. Surfguy

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    Did I not say earlier they should be able to track the account back? Only I didn't know it was a credit card. That is pure stupidity on the suspects' part. Sweet.

    This is great. I have to confess...this is excellent police work in tracking down these suspects. They were under a ton of pressure to get this done and they came through. It's amazing where the search led them but, ultimately, it appears the suspects themselves gave up too much information in the communications which led to their downfall. At least we know he isn't God now ;). I couldn't be more happy for the people in the affected areas who can now go outside without the fear of being picked off(we hope). Now, hopefully they can have some official ceremonies in remembrance of those who died.

    And, let's see some freaking justice done. I assume their eligible for the death penalty? The process should proceed in a quick manner. If their guilty, then they don't deserve to breathe for much longer.
     
  14. Another Brother

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    Why would a Muslim claim to be "God"?
     
  15. subtomic

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    Listened to the press conference with the Montgomery, AL police this morning and the officer speaking emphasized that the suspects did not leave a note and that there was no credit card taken. He did not divulge what evidence they had, however.

    I'm just glad they may have got the guy.
     
  16. DAROckets

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    Maybe to throw them off ..

    a better question is why would the sniper point the police in the direction they needed to find out who he was ?
     
  17. DAROckets

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    He did say something about a witness and them having a description and a composite of the suspect.
     
  18. MadMax

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    Terrorist cells often work with cues delivered through the media...I gulped a bit when I heard Chief Moose say, "we know it's important to you that we say, 'we have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose.'"

    Glad we caught these jackasses...hope this is the end of it.


    By the way...I heard a news conference with the Alabama police assisting with this and they said the credit card thing wasn't true.
     
  19. ROXRAN

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    This is apparently the end. AP: Feds tell President "reasonably sure" sniper case has been solved.

    It has been said it is logical and understandable that these guys were caught sleeping since they have been constantly on the run day and night...It was only a matter of time.
     
  20. DCkid

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    Jeez! What the hell! Did they find the weapon or not?
     

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