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The Silver Lining

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by NewYorker, May 6, 2007.

  1. NewYorker

    NewYorker Ghost of Clutch Fans

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    Vspan did get playing time and he worked out with the team. He showed some flashes at the end of the season - I think if he spends a summer working really hard - he will make it into the rotation.
     
  2. Jacquescas

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    I'm sorry but if more playing time for V-span is the solution to this problem, we might as well call it a surge. its not going to be nearly enough.
     
  3. NewYorker

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    I agree - VSPAN didn't exactly impress when he got his chances - but he's got talent and will make it if he keeps working hard

    I think JVG gets a bad rap - he had so little to work with - and Yao had an injury season, and T-mac clearly struggled with his jumper this year. We all know we needed a 3rd option, and the playoffs bore that out.

    Honestly - I don't know what we'll do, I'm still kinda hurtin but I think we'll get faster and more athletic. We really only need to pick up one or two guys to improve this team significantly.
     
  4. blackbird

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    NewYorker, a quick question. Did you change your signature recently?
     
  5. thiuronium

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    Are you serious?
     
  6. thiuronium

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    JVG doesn't know how to avoid a plyer's weakness and use his advantages. That's why Vspan looks poor.
     
  7. NewYorker

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    no why?
     
  8. alex_jr

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    As far as V-Span is concerned, I think what DaDa, Luffy1, myself and a few others have been saying is not that he had games where we played brilliant in all his minutes, but there were quite a few plays here and there that showed what he is capabel of , a 3-point play on a drive here , a steal and fast-break there, some hustle, a couple of assists etc. Yes, he didnt do it consistently in all of his minutes but what do you expect in his first few games in a new team under new rules ets. The point is that he CAN do it....

    And most people rave parker and other Euros...well, in Europe, bball journalists and analysts have mostly voted Span as a better player than most of them.

    And I know people will come-back with the old argument that not all players make the transition to the NBA game well but on 90% of the cases it's a lack of strength and athleticism that Span does not really lack for his kind of game..
     
  9. BMoney

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    The thing about playing time in the NBA is that you have the ability to do one thing really, really well if you have deficiencies in your game. Chuck Hayes can't shoot, but he hustles, plays aggressive defense and rebounds well for his size. Tony Parker had world class speed and penetration ability at the point when he came into the league. VSpan does not do anything well above average for a guard in the NBA to overcome his problems. Maybe he will develop in the future, but comparing him to Tony Parker is laughable. VSpan is slow, can't shoot, defend, or get his teammates involved in the offense. Vspan seems like he can penetrate well, but it's a simple adjustment to make for a defense to make if you can't shoot the ball. In a season where the Rockets lose Yao, McGrady, Snyder and Bonzi to significant games, condemning Van Gundy as a failure for not developing VSpan is silly. It really is. The roster let them down. I am convinced of this.
     
  10. thiuronium

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    Exactly. JVG just doesn't know how to play Vspan. A player who can't fit in JVG's system doesn't mean that he is not a good player.
     
  11. alex_jr

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    If you tell me youve seen him play enough to make that judgement (ie watched euro ball) than I'll just leave it at : we agree to disagree.

    In the NBA , none of us really had a chance to see what he is good at and how good he is at it...

    So in the meantime:

    FIBA European player of the year 2006

    Expert panel:

    Spanoulis voted at 7th place
    Parker voted at 8th

    Fan vote:

    Spanoulis voted at 7th
    Parker voted at 8th
     
  12. tiger0330

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    It took Boki 5 years to come into his own and he is bigger, more athletic and possesses a better shot than VSpan. God knows how long its going to take VSpan to be NBA ready, right now he is a one trick pony that has decent not great penetration skills because of his average athleticism. I would bet he is not a rotation player next year no matter who the coach is.

    And whats up with the Bonzi could have helped this team??? I thought you had proclaimed him a bust and bad fit.
     
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  13. DaDakota

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    Boki was coming into his own in JVG's first year, then got in an argument with JVG and got shipped out, it took him a while to find his niche again, but I am convinced that he was on the verge of getting it in Houston, as his .444 3pt percentage the year he got traded would attest.

    JVG Screwed up Boki for us too......

    DD
     
  14. durvasa

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    Here's what you said: "He ran his starters ragged and, when it came time for the bench to spell the starters, they fold because they don't know what to do out on the court."

    That simply doesn't make any sense. Our bench players in the playoffs that we relied on to spell the starters -- namely Luther and Juwan -- played a ton in the regular season. They had all the experience they could want, and it didn't do a damn thing.

    I guess what you meant is JVG's reluctance to give other guys playing time limited our options in the playoffs. I agree with that point. But that's different from what you actually said.
     
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  15. mmesser

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    Kidnap Michael Jordan.
     
  16. OldManBernie

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    I think Parker refers to Anthony Parker (not Tony Parker). Anthony Parker already had NBA experience in the past, so it's understandable he is more polished for the NBA game.
     
  17. sammy

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    and he also made sure that no one grabbed a freakin defensive rebound in the last minute. :confused: look man...we were close and you wouldnt be saying anything if we had pulled out the nail biter. either way, Im ok with or without JVG
     
  18. alex_jr

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    Nope...it's Tony Parker(FRA)...Check

    Anthony Parker is not even close to either of them
     
  19. Madman George

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    lookie at No1 wat a suprise....
     
  20. alex_jr

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    Yeah I know....Apparently Mavs, Clippers and TWolves are rumoured to be interested in him...I posted it in NBA Dish....With his situation, to have that rumour actually surface from his agent means there might be some truth to it...

    Anyone want an upgrade over Rafer in PG? :p
     

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