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The search begins for the next manager

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Yordan The Great, Oct 23, 2023.

  1. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

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    We don’t HAVE to hire someone terrible. If he better then dusty? Probably, because how could someone be worse. But no thanks
     
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  2. Tomstro

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    So Dusty sucking automatically makes Ausmus good? Nice logic, dumbass.
     
  3. evilhomer

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    Give Espada a chance, when he was managing the Astros had a massive comeback in game 5, when Dusty was managing they couldn’t win a home game
     
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    I think it would behoove the Astros to find a manager without a massive ego like Dusty and who will be more willing to operate on the same page as the FO. Espada probably fits that bill better than anyone.
     
  5. Rvo384

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    You complained about Dusty being terrible only to possibly get someone worse. That’s what you deserve.
     
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  6. Rvo384

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    When Hinch was managing they also couldn’t win a. Home game
     
  7. IdStrosfan

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    Espada is a very easy decision.

    If they view him as an important asset to the organization they must choose him and see if he will make a good manager.

    The Astros know him very well and he would not still be in the running if he doesn't have the skills. It safe to say he will not be BAD. He is either good or not ready and therefore not impactful.

    If they feel he hasn't got the chops then move on.

    He either is the manager in Houston or the manager, or possibly bench coach (where he feels it gives him a better chance to become one) somewhere else.

    I think hiring him and pairing him with an older veteran bench coach (Phil Garner?) is what I would do for the 2024 Astros.
     
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  8. Tomstro

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    Ok, Dusty fan. Run along now, he’s gone. No reason for you to be here anymore. Oh and yes, Dusty was terrible.
     
  9. Hey Now!

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    This is a great point. It certainly seems like Dusty walked to the beat of his own drum, and had the cache to do it. What worries me is the team's culture: are they creating an environment is which the front office is distanced from the on-field aspect?

    Brown being a former player *really* helps if this is a possible issue.
     
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  10. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    Again... putting in a set up man with all-star credentials is less egregious than starting a rock bottom player when a better option is available every, single playoff game.
     
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    Weird, not able to post stuff with a link. Our new podcast is up on How many wins Dusty cost us last year and discussion about what we want in a new manager.
    Check it out- breathing orange fire- subscribe even so you don't have to wait for me to try and fail to post a link!
     
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  12. RKREBORN

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    If I was Espada and I didn't get the job, I'm resigning the next day.
     
  13. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    I found it very very interesting that in 2019, they didn't trust Dusty to choose his own coaching staff...
     
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    Ahhh ahh ahhh. Hinch couldn’t win a home game either.
     
  15. Rvo384

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    I find it very interesting he still got a ring.
     
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    You complained about Dusty to end up with Ausmus. That’s hilarious.
     
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    Ausmus' entire career all I heard was " he can't hit but he will be a great manager someday"

    Well. I want Joe Espada to be the Astros next manager.

    However, if Ausmus is chosen then I will trust that the people (still around) who have created and nurtured this great era of Astros baseball trusts him and chose him.

    There are questions about his work ethic and results. There are no questions about his intelligence or baseball knowledge and experience.

    Just like Dusty, I will start the 2024 season with a clean slate and support him. Hopefully forever, but at least until he deserves criticism for actual choices and decisions.

    MLB history is riddled with managers who started off poorly and unsuccessfully then got into the right situation and became very successful. (Joe Torre, Bobby Cox, and even A.J. Hinch come to mind)

    Hopefully, if Brad is the new manager, he becomes the next one.
     
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    I don't know anything about these candidates. What I do know is that I want a manager that relies on analytics most of the time as opposed to a manager that uses his gut. Ausmus and Bagwell seem to favor the gut approach, and, if that is true I don't want them in the organization at all. I'm fairly certain that Brown likes an analytics driven approach and hope he has the power to get his guy hired.
     
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  20. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    Click Dusty-proofed that roster last year. Yes, I am a Yuli-truther.
     
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