The Rockets will make all their major moves before training camp. Here's why.

i dont know about resigning him, but i agree he may be gone by feb, i just think Morey will wait for the right deal and/or a healthy tmac rather than going for a safe deal just get rid of tmac by the start of the season

 

Tmac isn't going to bring in anywhere neal equal talent if you trade him this summer. Instead he's going to get you an ok player and some scrubs as filler. Morey already said he's not making a trade that's just going to bring in dead weight. Maybe we can get one above average starter, but then the question is, does he fit? i dont' see them bringing in guys to stack a position that's already filled either....and once again, it's not certain they'll even re-tool in Feb, they may just keep tmac or deal him way before Feb if he returns by opening day.

The discussion wasn't over Morey stating he wanted to get rid of Tmac by a certain date, that definitely is stupid because everyone will bid low up until your deadline...but again, that wasn't what was being discussed..the other poster never clarified what he meant, but i was refering to the fact that Morey has no leverage to gain by denying it because Tmac is out right now, so teams are going to bid low anyway because as of right now they'd be trading for a player who may not play well again. Whether Morey comes out and says he's shopping tmac or not, the offers won't change because Tmac's status won't change right now. Now if Tmac were already back, then yes you wouldn't say it publicly so other teams would think they had to bid higher to get you to trade him...but right now they aren't going to do that...

i think waiting to see if he can play well is a VERY GOOD reason to keep him around because at worst it will driv eup his value and get you more....i'm not even that big of a tmac fan and blasted him for the way he handled the knee situation...what i want is what's best for the team, PERIOD..all fans should want that, i think the ones who just want tmac gone ASAP possibly just hate tmac....i dont care if he stays or goes, i just care about doing what puts us in the best position to win a ring, regardless of whether that is pulling the trigger on a good deal thie summer, a deal suring the season, or even keeping a healthy Tmac...to limit your options would mean increasing your chances of getting less value and that may end up being the difference between a conf finals exit or a ring..if you want team success then you explore ALL possible options and go for the best one

 

Yet you agreed with a poster who sees no point in keeping tmac around and wants him gone ASAP even if that means losing out on the possibility of getting more in return for him if he returns and plays well


Let's keep in mind that Tracy is hyped about coming back to prove doubters. I don't believe some things he says, but i don't think any man would take the criticism Tmac is getting and do nothing about it, we'd all come out swinging...so i'd expect tmac to come out on a high at first, that alone would drive up his value right off the bat...maybe he'll disrupt our offense, but i can see him doing it by having some very good individual performances and that's when we can take advantage of it since his value would be rising and we'd know for sure he wouldn't fit as well..

 

which deals? Memphis made one when it trade Gasol, but even they can't afford something stupid like that again because they pissed off fans so much that another blunder like that would hurt them in sales dramatically.....those one sided deals are rarely money-based...usually it's a mix of a disgruntled player(s), money issues, and/or talent that doesn't fit. We'd have to find a team that 's got a combination of those, just like we'd have to have a combination of those to actively trade tmac. Right now his contract isn't really hurting us so there's no real money issue. With the team saying they want him back and tmac saying he wants to come back, i don't see anyone being disgruntled...and i don't think we can clearly say he doesnt fit when he only played last year while injured AND during a time when Ron and shane kept coming in and out of lineups. Let's not forget that the inconsistency in the lineup wasn't just tmac and he wasn't the only one who suffered or "didnt fit", there were times when Ron and others didn't appear to fit either during that stretch full of injuries. I feel like Morey prefers to wait and see if tmac can be healthy and then see if he can find a fit if he's got all his skills back before dumping him on another team...

 

You snooze, you lose. It really doesn't make sense to keep tracy till deadline. Teams are willing to tell thier fans they are going to clear room and make a run at the 2010 sweepstakes. It happens time and time again that you can trade a player like tracy amd then trade him again. Rasheed was the last known example, but waiting on him to combat really put s the team in a bind. It seems to me make the trade and move on instead of waiting.

 

exactly, if you plan to trade T-Mac then this is the time. I would rather keep him till the season ends if he is still on our list by the deadline. With his 23m off our book, we will have enough room for Lebron James, or any other superstar who becomes free in that summer. Unless we can get a powerful player that would possibly make us a serious contender next season, the best choice for us is keeping T-Mac till his contract expires IMHO.

 

Unless I'm mistaken I don't remember saying I wanted to get rid of him for nothing. And lets be honest, tracy wants to come back strong for another contract. I think it has NOTHING to do with proving doubters wrong. I'm for trading him that is true, but think his value will not be higher than now due to his contract expiring and insurance covering it till he returns.

 

Rockets will surely finish all their major moves before the training camp started, but I won't feel surprised if Morey makes some "minor" moves like the Artest trade he made last year.

 

No, we won't.

Please list the teams with a legitimate chance to sign one of the Big 3 and elaborate on their salary cap situation, what effect trading for Tracy has on their 2010 season and what $23 million dollars worth of contracts the Rockets would have to take in return.

 

Bingo. Especially with teams knowing the fact that they actually don't have to pay T-Mac if he sits this season with the insurance clause and his contract comes off the books next season. You can't lose. Tracy's contract this season is a gift from the salary cap gods. Morey has got to be one of the most popular GMs in the league right now and I hope he pays for unlimited minutes on his cell phone plan.

 

Tell me why any team, as of now, would gamble and assume Tmac will sit this whole season when the current timetable has him coming back on opening day??? It's not a perfect situation for us, yes the insurance plan would pay, if he sits out, and had Tmac announced he may not be back or would take most of the year, then teams would be salivating, but he didn't, so teams aren't...

 

they don't HAVE to keep him until the deadline, it's just not wise to settle for a summer deadline deal.....and not at all teams are going to just want to clear space at any cost...'sheed was traded for peanuts, do we want peanuts? And he was HEALTHY, as of now, tmac isn't...

 

Well since your the resident expert on T-Mac and when exactly he's coming back and the expert on what Morey's going to do and should do and what other teams are and arent doing. You tell me what is the probability of a 30yr injury prone (back, shoulder ect) T-Mac playing a full season after microfractive surgery on his bad knee and shoulder surgery as well. Every game he misses due to injury is about $280,000 you don't have to pay in salary, so if he misses conservatively 25 games (he misses around 22.5 games a season with the rockets and without major surgery) this season. Thats $7,000,000 a team doesn't have to pay on a $23,000,000 contract which is coming off the books at the end of next season. Cash strapped teams would be out of there minds not to be salivating over Tracy's contract.

 

It isn't that simply and you know it. Three-way trades are made, GM's have deals working under the table and a million other issues come up out of nowhere to make things possible. Trades happen all of the time where nobody, including the experts, saw them coming.

Use your brain.

 

RV6 -

I respectfully disagree with you about where Tmac's value is. I don't see any teams out there trading for him because of what he does on the court so waiting to see how he plays is pointless. IMO, his value is in that contract and he knows it, Morey knows and everyone else in the league knows it. If anything, the closer to the deadline we get the less value he has. Of course, we won't know who is right until the trade is made but I am sure he won't be here in October.

 

Sheed was ready to go on a contract year on a losing , young team. I don't care what they get for tracy as long as its a couple of quality players. Shaq was traded for Butler,Odom,and Brian Grant. None of which were on his level. Baron davis and vince carter have been traded for lessor players also. The point is get the best you can get and get them off your roster and move on. I've said it before, Jackson,Maggette,and Turiaf for mcgrady and barry makes al the sense for for both teams. GSW get a get rid 3 longer contracts of guys who can play and continue to allow them to run with the younger guys and since the rockets made the dumb notion of win now and are building around a injury prone big, it gives them a backup center/pf, a playmaker sg with championship experience, and a scoring wing off the bench. It all fits and add up and will keep the slight window of hope open. That would also allow the rockets to let wafer and artest go unless they trade battier. They just need to move on or they will be left holding the bag of hope and maybe no one wants that deal at the deadline like wally's deal.

 

Just to let you know what Morey just said on the radio. T-Mac probably isn't coming back until December or March. That's a very wide time table. And teams are calling alot about T-Macs contract of which you say" they aren"t. I don't understand your thinking, but everybody is entitled to there own opinion.

 

I fixed for you

 

The big question is when are we getting a backup Center...and who!

 

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