The Rockets will make all their major moves before training camp. Here's why.

I think at the end of the day
TMAC is gone before the Trade Deadline

I cannot see TMAC being resigned. . .even if he comes back at 100%
without a SIGNIFICANT pay reduction. I'm talking under 10 mil
I'm talking less than Ron Artest money

Rocket River

 

if tracy can play 65-70 games, he will earn more than ron artest.

 

Ric Bucher believes that Mcgrady will be traded before the season

In response to someone's question:

"Excellent chance. He dissed the team handling his knee as he did. Bringing him back would only disrupt the flow/chemistry."

http://twitter.com/RicBucher

 

Raven, you're dead on here. This team has always starts slow and the more time to gel with new players the better. Home Court Advantage has to be a top priority for this team and they won't get it by re-tooling midseason.

Some you guys are beyond insane if you think Morey is going to show all of his cards in the media. I really can't understand how you don't understand that in order to get the best value for something you don't advertise that you will get rid of it one way or another by a certain date. It's really not that difficult guys.

Tracy is done as a Rocket. There is NO GOOD REASON to bring him back as a Rocket. He disrupts chemistry, never bought into Adelman's offense and is generally the polar opposite of everything that this team is built around (consistent effort, defense, toughness). I know some of you have visions of him coming back and being the player he was 2-3 years ago and that isn't happening but even if it was it isn't worth screwing up the team as it exists now. The guy's value is nearly 100% in his expiring contract so the "wait and see how he plays" attitude only exists among Tmac fans. Don't believe me then watch and see where he goes. It won't be to a team looking to become a contender it will be to a team looking to trade for and then dump his salary ASAP.

The deal to move McGrady will be done before training camp. That makes the most sense by far if the goal is for the team to succeed next season.

 

that's a popular thing to say that tracy will be traded. from the outside looking in, everybody expects so.

but remember, ric bucher swears on his grave that kobe bryant would never play another game for the lakers again. he said his inside sources told him so. unless someone has "real" inside source, morey is simply picking up the phone as he's supposed to. we will know if tracy will be traded. right now, there's nothing imminent.

 

*IF* no one is going to sign him for that type of money based on an *IF*

He won't get a chance to prove it since he will be out a significant part of the season. [I doubt he makes training camp and I don't think he should rush anything]

Rocket River

 

IF he's not gonna play that many games, chances are no team will sign him and he'll most likely retire.

 

That one year qualifier is for a medical/injury exception. It's also sometimes referred to as insurance by the media. If a player is out for a season a team can put in a claim to have that player's salary taken off the team's the salary cap.

However, the receiving team in a trade is not eligible for this exception. If a player already has this exception approved or carries a injury that could lead to this exception, the team that traded for him won't receive it.

McGrady's insurance is from outside the NBA. Thay's why a team trading for him can benefit from it. Mobley and LaFrentz had/have non-NBA insurance that other teams can trade for.

 

That is why he must be traded for the rockets to get something of value
and the teams need to get him. . . so he comes off the books.

Letting him expire does not help the Rockets
They still over the cap.

Rocket River

 

I agree with this completely!! This is someone who obviously gets it. I don't understand why so many keep drinking from the TM cup. He played well for a couple years. Thank you I appreciate that. But when is the last time it really felt like he was a part of this team? I don't want to hear the 22 game streak and into the playoffs that year. TM new the pressure was off then by not having Yao. The expectations of the team advancing were not high. He continually makes excuses, shows no heart and has not bought into this system. How great could he have been with if he had half the heart of even someone like a Battier not to even mention great players. There is no better time to move forward. Would a healthy Tracy have helped advance? Absolutely, But its over. Morey will make this team better and moving him is part of that equation. Thanks for the memories

 

Yeah that was me asking

 

We don't know what might happen, but it's quite probable that we may not be able to get anything of value for his expiring contract either.Everyone knows that we are in a position of weakness and will try to dump their undesirables onto us even in these difficult financial times. I know that we will remain over the cap even if his contract expires.

 

but the thing is who is willing to give up on their season EVEN BEFORE it has started??? we want legit star power with any major player we take back from tmacs massive expiring right? so can any of you actually envision us getting kevin martin or danny granger even before training camp has started???

 

You're right about wanting a legit star in return, though you're going to have your 5-10 teams from each conference that you can already mark off as not contenders or who are looking to rebuild or have financial problems. (Teams such as Detroit, Indiana, Charlotte, NJ, Milwaukee, Toronto, NY, and Washington in the East and Phoenix, Golden State, Minny, Memphis, OK City, LAC, and Sacramento in the West.) With exceptions to a few teams, I'm sure we could find a player on each team to bring back in a trade. But again, as you said, we want something legit in return.

 

I'm not so sure The team or teams we would be dealing with would be giving up. As well as everyone knows by now teams are losing money and may be willing to part with some "star power" If they can get rid of money elsewhere as well. That being said it may not be something blockbuster, may just be something that makes us better. I don't want to get rid of mac just for the sake of getting rid of him. I trust DM enough to think he will make us better
in whatever deal he makes.

 

I feel that the financially troubled teams will ask for Scolandry,Brooks and possibly Hayes or Lowry in addition to McGrady. They don't cost much and can help them out. That's going to put DM in a tough position. I think we will be lucky if we can get a guy like Carter in return.Most of the offers are going to be of a lesser quality than that.

 

Probably so. I wouldnt mind throwing one of them in there to make things work, but it depends on who or what we are getting back. If your trading for a PF, you give a PF back. If you get a high pick and are planning to draft a PG, you can probably afford to send a PG back, etc.

 

Yeah that is def a fear of mine. I don't want to gut this team. I was against getting Carter last season, think I would be a little more open to the idea. Maybe.

 

disagree just resign wafer & artest get a second tier big man an go for broke.

 

Teams will take McGrady without asking for anything else from the Rockets. They don't need to package Landry, Scola, Brooks or anyone else. There are teams out there telling themselves and their fans that this move will be to clear space to make a run at Lebron, Wade, Bosh etc.

Look at all the stupid, one-sided deals made all of the time and it isn't hard to imagine in this financial climate that someone is going to trade the immediate future for Tmac if they think they even have a tiny, tiny chance to land a franchise type guy next summer. Hell, even if they don't believe that a lot of these owners just don't want to keep paying up anymore.

There are plenty of teams who are not thinking of contending or even improving as a team in 2009-2010. It's all about money.