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The Rockets will make all their major moves before training camp. Here's why.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Raven, Jun 20, 2009.

  1. t_mac1

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    thats why that's the reason i want him traded - injury concerns.

    not his style of play like your reasons ;)
     
  2. RV6

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    Wasn't ron a gamble as well? Who gave him any chance of going the whole season without a flare up?? It's close to the same position for ron and tmac, the difference is tmac's issue is injuries and ron's is his temper. They both are low risk moves though for two reasons, one, they are both tradeable even with their issues, and two, tmac has one season left, much like ron had one with us as well, so there's no long term commitment anymore. It would be incredibly stupid for houston to trade him just to be done with him only for tmac to actually manage to come back and be succesful again. There's absolutely no reason why you trade him when he's on track to be back early, you only do it if you're making a trade in your favor. Other than that, you wait it out and take him for a test drive first..
     
  3. abc2007

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    From what I read, I feel the rockets don't have to trade Tmac.

    It will depend on two things. 1st, whether there is a good offer from another team. 2nd, whether tmac has a good attitude to be a part of Adelman's system and accept his reduced role.
     
  4. abc2007

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    btw, I never doubt Tmac can be recovered at a good level even if he is not at 100% physical level. He is very talented player.
     
  5. nomad_balla

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    completely false logic. moves will be made when the right deals presents itself. you can't just make moves for the sake of it.
     
  6. RV6

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    Ron does the same thing, but i don't see them hating ron? You can hate certain things without hating the individual as a person. Just like they talk to ron and calm him down they can talk to tracy as well, the best scenario would be getting everyone healthy and on the same page..
     
  7. RV6

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    they've had success before with yao and tracy, with only yao, an with only tmac and with neither of them. That doesn't mean much, the goal is to win a ring, not just compete, and they haven't proven they can win that without tracy.

    I'm not against trading tmac if a good offer is on the table, i've actually been saying that's the only reason why you'd trade him this summer....what i don't agree with is just taking the best offer available by training camp just to get rid of him and set the roster.
     
  8. abc2007

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    I don't hate tmac. If my friends face similar situation, I would give them same suggestion.

     
  9. t_mac1

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    i was actually disappointed in our offense. we had a ton of offensive options and yet we struggled to score so much in the playoffs. we were beyond atrocious at times. we were fortunate our defense played at a championship level, along with our hustle.

    this year's playoffs: we averaged 91.5ppg only. last year's playoffs, we averaged 88ppg despite missing yao every game, rafer for 2.5 games, and guys injured with no bench.

    we really need adelman to devise a way to just solve the fronting or get a playmaker.
     
  10. abc2007

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    I think that is what the rockets are doing! They said they don't shop tmac but other teams call them. ;)

     
  11. RV6

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    You can't be certain he's not the same after surgery when he hasn't even played yet...

    the reasont hey were more focused and intact after Tracy left was because they had consistency..they knew who was playing and who wasn't, what the roles would be from game to game, instead of one game being more of a scorer and the next more of a role guy, that was the problem, not that it was tmac....

    Even yao didn't fit on this team after he got injured in game 3..he wasn't his usual self, he was more of a liability out there for us...that doesn't mean he doesn't fit, does it? Tracy's issue was the same....
     
  12. jump shooter

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    All Im going to say to you is thank god your not the rockets GM.
     
  13. RV6

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    because there's nothing more to say....there's only so many options you can have with a player who's injured and not playing. Your options are severely limited because most teams you talk to will have the upper hand because you're giving them damaged goods and can only trade based on tmac's contract, not his value as a player.
     
  14. texascityman31

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    no no no, raven is right. look at the gasol trade. they got to the finals, but look at how much more chemistry there was with an offseason for the lakers.
     
  15. t_mac1

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    OR they had ariza, where they didn't in last year's playoffs. ariza was HUGE for them in the playoffs.
     
  16. Raven

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    Was Rafer traded for chemistry reasons or because the Rockets found the right deal? Personally, I think they traded him for chemistry reasons, because they wanted to give Brooks more play time and they were concerned how Rafer would react, and that concern proved to be prophetic, because Skippy raised a huge stink when he was semi benched in game four against the Lakers.
     
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    I dont think anyone knows that our current team ( without tmac) has enough fire power to take down the lakers. even with a backup center I still dont see us beating the lakers with:


    brooks pg
    artest sg
    battier sf
    scola pf
    yao c


    we need another peice to the puzzle, someone with an offensive game. This is where tmac comes in to play or someone of his abilities. I say give tmac till the deadline and if he still can't produce then trade him for a true sg with a triple threat.
     
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    Why would Feigen's informant tell him that McGrady's contract is already qualified for insurance as a counter to the DraftExpress article where it was stated he's expected to miss the first 20-30 games? Couldn't they have just repeated McGrady's own claim of him being ready on opening night?
     
  19. jump shooter

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    Also Raven the big reason they made the Alston for Lowry trade was Lowry's ability to attack the basket, which was sorely missed without T-Mac. I think Alston was a better fit with Tracy, but they knew Tracy wasn't coming back and hence they upgraded there PG talent in getting Lowry.
     
  20. t_mac1

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    i think morey and adelman have been wanting to trade adelman since adelman first got here. that was a fact. it wasn't for chemistry issue or anything.
     

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