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The Rockets Should Stand Pat

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by coachbadlee, Dec 5, 2011.

  1. valorita

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    How is this team, for the past 2 seasons, prepped around Yao?

    We ARE a high tempo team, we ran a high octane offense with Rick around. EVERYONE knew the problem when Yao comes back is about how to integrate him into the offense, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. So Yao didn't affect how the Rockets played because we never changed the way we played.

    If you said we were running an offense the whole season that revolves around Yao, then you have a case. But since that is not the case, your whole "this team was prepping around Yao" is not true at all.

    The only thing Yao held us back in is cap space, he didn't "inhibit" our offense or whatever because we weren't running a Yao oriented offense. In fact, our style of play was almost not suitable for Yao at all.
     
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    i want to see if morey can produce a playoff team from scratch...so far he has made some good and bad moves.. but i like how he quickly covers his mistakes (ex. ariza for lee) i just want him to land a haymaker one of these days instead of just throwing jabs
     
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    Where is the Dalembert chatter? We are in need of a starting C and he is reportedly saying this is where he wants to be.
     
  5. coachbadlee

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    None of this really matters though. What matters is how the team came together after Yao was gone.
     
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    The whole roster was prepped for Yao. Tmac, Battier, Brooks, Scola, KM, all these guys were good players but they were obtained with the thought of playing them alongside Yao Ming, which is why all of them had a working jumpshot.

    Adelman's RnR offense was indeed high octane, but it wasn't a run and gun offense. In fact, in its most successful incarnation the offense featured a slow footed Center (divac), so its not like Yao Ming was a bad fit. Ideally, what would happen is the team would fast break and look for holes, by the time Yao catches up they would go into plan B and run the offense through him. It would have worked really if Yao was healthy, think Kareem Jabbar and his creaky knees during the showtime era with Magic and the rest of the gang.
     
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    He only wants to be in Houston because the Rockets are one of the only teams that need him and have the money to sign him to the r****ded ****ing contract he thinks he deserves.
     
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    thank you for being intelligent.
     
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    But it's not so much that it's prepared for Yao, it's prepped for the offense. K-Mart is the perfect player in RA system, and although I would definitely agree that RA/Morey both had playing Martin alongside Martin in mind, I'm also confident that K-Mart was acquired because his style of offense is perfect in a high octane offense.

    Basically, I'm saying the team's offense wasn't built around Yao. RA set up the offense, and planned to integrate Yao later on. Which means the roster that we had without Yao was playing at their full potential, and a 40 win team is the best that the roster can do.
     
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    fixed*
     
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    Ok. After saying all of that, do you think they should stand pat?
     
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    Obviously not.

    That is not to say we HAVE to make a move, because no move is better than a bad move.

    Every move from this stage on IS and WILL be a gamble. There is no "safe" move with the roster that we have. If we sign a veteran we may impede the growth of some players, and if we throw away everything for a young prospect there is a chance that the prospect is an absolute bust.

    Since that is the case, we wait for the best gamble that we can take. If one comes along, take it. But standing pat and hoping Thabeet will all of a sudden become a starter is not the solution..
     
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    The only way I think they should stand pat is if the deals for Scola and Martin are complete crap.

    I dont think they should stand pat in hopes of getting a veteran and standing pat may actually hurt is in developing younger players . But i defineitely think they should stand pat and not sign a FA center.

    However I dont think the deals for Scola and Martin will be crap. Especially if we can trade martin for a bad contract then amnesty it.

    Think about this scenario

    We trade Martin to Orlando for Hedo and 2 firsts

    Orlando does it for Obvious reasons... putting martin next to D-howard may convince him to stay, even if martin is no star his play perfectly complements Howard's.

    This leaves the magic a little thin at SF so i would throw in bud for 2 seconds or a first.

    We amnesty Hedo

    At the very worst we got 2 firsts for martin ( very worst scenario .... and this is among lots of teams... because thats a terrrible offer for martin if Howard stays and they are low firsts )

    But at best .. howard leaves anyways and a team led by martin alone is gonna have some pretty high picks.

    Plus this can screw over the lakers and other teams that are trying to trade for howard this season... howard still leaves preferably but in the offseason.

    Now if that is the absolute best offer for martin i still think you take it and dont stand pat. And i think there will be much better lower risk offers for both Martin and Scola. There is no way we dont make a move this season. In fact i would hope that offers get better the closer to the trading deadline we get... contenders are willing to give up more picks for a scola or martin.


    I just really hope we arent contending and willing to give up our picks/assets for a vet.
     
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    The Rockets should just resign Chuck and role with this squad at least until the deadline.

    It looks like Nene wants to stay.
    Chandler is asking for way too much.
    Finally, i don't trust Dallie as much as i trust Chuck.
     
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