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[The Ringer] Kevin O'Connor Mad At Harden, Thinks MDA Sucks At His Job

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DreamShook, Sep 11, 2020.

  1. HP3

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    Harden didnt need to do that for this team to be successful, just like now. He just needs a guy who can be an actual number 2. Facts are facts bro,...sorry.
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    Which is why we keep losing bro. Sorry.

    Harden is a 1B not a 1A.
     
  3. HP3

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    Again, you have zero context. Just blame Harden.

    Harden has no number 2 in these playoffs and that's why you see the results because AD>>>Westbrook. Im sorry facts hurt your feelings.
     
  4. dmoneybangbang

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    I have Harden's career as context. You just have excuses.

    Harden could make it easier for Russ.... but he doesn't just like CP3.
     
  5. HP3

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    No I have context, you have poor analysis simply based on results. Cmon man, I know Harden didnt have his best game, but Kawhi literally had a worse game(and a loss) against the Nuggets and no one said anything about him.
     
  6. dmoneybangbang

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    LOL. Kawhi has earned the benefit of the doubt with his post season success.....

    Harden is still trying to prove it.... after how many years as a Rocket?
     
  7. HP3

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    Kawhi has played on infinitely more talented teams. He got his first ring playing with three HOF players. Harden has objectively been great this post season and the numbers bare that out. You guys are mad because we are losing to a more talented team and Harden has a bad game. Its ridiculous keep it up with the poor analysis.
     
  8. dmoneybangbang

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    Lol... “infinitely”...

    Harden has had many bad postseason games. At some point you just have to look at the constant throughout the post season run.
     
  9. HP3

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    Im sorry is Tim Duncan, Manu and Tony parker, not good enough? And probably the GOAT coach...lol like what are you even taling about.

    He's had 2 bad games this post season, one of which we won. He's leading in impact metrics only behind Lebron and Davis...., he has the worst second option in the league. Just stop talking to me man, you just talk out of your butt.
     
  10. francis 4 prez

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    why can't it just be that the lakers are more talented? there's a reason they won significantly more games than us and were -400 favorites this series. trading capela for covington certainly was a stylistic change that gave us a puncher's chance, but it wasn't some huge talent upgrade. yes, the point of small ball was to make teams play how they didn't want to, and from that perspective it succeeded. the lakers like to play three 7 footers and give javale and dwight minutes and we stopped that. but that's why teams say things like "let's sign lebron james" and "hey, let's trade for anthony davis". because you can play an extra 7 footer with AD at pf and lebron at sf or you can go small and literally have the best small-ball center and power forward in the league with AD and lebron. you're just trading javale mcgee's minutes for minutes by another wing. maybe the extra wing isn't quite as good, but we're talking about minimal talent differential around the real problem's, lebron and AD.

    if we had (fake) mvp westbrook, who could still make a mid-range jumper, still drive and then finish at league average percentages, and could still jump out of the gym and set up teammates, maybe you have a chance. if we even had midseason non-injured russ, we might have a chance (though all his issues would still be there). but it can't be AD and lebron vs harden and a liability and then think that a few adjustments are gonna solve the problem. the answer to every adjustment is always going to be "give russ more space and cover everyone else" because they don't think russ can beat them doing anything. this team was built to be harden and westbrook creating shots and tearing opponents apart. when one of them is not only not doing that, but basically destroys the offense when he's on the court, then it's not gonna work (the fact the offense suddenly goes back to being good when he sits says any issues harden has aren't the biggest problem).
     
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  11. dmoneybangbang

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    If Harden wants to win he needs to adjust, it’s pretty simple.
     
  12. HP3

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    Okay man, if we lose and a new coach comes in and we see all this Harden off ball movement works, I will come back here and let you know it. Cause Dantoni is gone and you guys will have your wish. Lets see how well that works out, as of now, I see no reason to do it. And I dont see who's gonna make Westbrook a better shooter or defender, that big problem still remains.
     
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    Wait,...

    Is someone contending that Harden moving off ball would have made Westbrook not suck?

    Westbrook has sucked for many years now. It makes no difference who his teammates are. What system you run. What coach you have.

    Westbrook sucks and is not a winning player. No amount of off ball movement will change that.

    His place in the league vanished faster than big men. Because big men can actually defend on one end. A PG with zero shooting capability, the worst decision making imaginable, a terrible defender and a turnover machine to boot has no place in winning games.

    EVERY SINGLE metric says the same thing. Westbrook = losing.

    Whatever part big or small that Harden played in this trade happening he deserves all the blame in the world for.
     
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    Lol. If Harden didn’t do it during the WCF why would he change?

    Harden can shoot and Russ can’t.... seems pretty obvious who should play more like Klay Thompson
     
  15. dmoneybangbang

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    Lol. No the idea is to make WB suck less....
     
  16. HP3

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    He didnt NEED TO. We needed Cp3 not to be hurt, but it was unfortunate.

    Harden isnt Klay Thompson, he cant run around screens like that and the defense are keyed way more on him than anyone else on the floor. You'll just be getting what we have now but with more turnovers. He doesnt have a quick enough shot like that either.
     
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    .... we missed a bunch of 3s (harden couldn’t get A bucket) when CP3 was out injured.

    .... harden didn’t play off ball when CP3 was playing gimpy.

    Lol...,you lack imagination just like Harden.
     
  18. HP3

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    Ah yes the old we missed a bunch of 3s so some off ball bricks will save us, excellent analysis. He didnt need to because we were still producing good offense. We lost that series on the defensive end.

    You just dont listen to facts. LOL "imagination"...sheesh. Just stop quoting me
     
  19. RocketOrg

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    Fast break points:
    Rockets 2, Lakers 19

    2nd chance points:
    Rockets 0, Lakers 17

    Rebounding, offensive:
    Rockets 1, Lakers 12

    Points in the paint:
    Rockets 24, Lakers 62

    Are those stats on Harden or MDA’s coaching and Morey’s small ball system? I don’t care how much Harden scores, you can’t win with those stats
     
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  20. HP3

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    Small ball, these dude's are clearly very tired. We shoulndt be out rebounded like that especially when they go small. These guys are tried and it shows.
     

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