The riddle of Vance was solved last night when he lied about his stance on abortion, couldn't answer who won the 2020 election, lied about Trump's effort to remove ACA, when Vance admitted lying about the Haitian immigrant story and saying he would do it again. etc. I think the riddle of Vance has been solved. I think there isn't much
Vance didn’t do poorly last night but was saddled with having to defend Trump’s record. I would even say where he did the best was when he differentiated himself from trump In tone and content.
Just noting how those defending Vance are positing memes about how he and Walz looked little of what Vance actually said.
I am shocked at how much @basso cried about Harris policy and interviews that she is more concerned about physical appearances and memes,
I know I and other posters have posted links to Harris' policies several times in this subforum in response to criticism that she doesn't have any policy.
You posted links to different news articles speculating what her policies were based on a few rallies. That's not the same thing as linking to a candidate's website
I posted links to what Kamala Harris has herself said. I just took a look at Donald Trump’s website and I don’t see anything about leaving abortion to the states or protecting the ACA even though Vance says those are his policies https://www.donaldjtrump.com/platform
Why would you see anything about leaving abortion to the states on his website? And he does have info about making healthcare affordable if you read the PDF link on his website. Thats how it works now.
This was more of an interesting read than I expected... In the heart of Appalachia, a distant cousin of JD Vance leads an opposing 'authentic hillbilly' movement -- "Fact check him!" she shouted, calling JD Vance "a sellout" and "a method actor." -- Story by Mackenzie Mays LA Times Five generations of Vances gathered in West Virginia last month for a reunion, singing hymns and swapping stories in a quiet park hugged by towering green mountains waiting to burst into autumnal shades of orange. JD Vance — the Republican vice presidential nominee who reunion attendees say is part of the family — was not among them. "He is surely too ashamed to face any of us. Judas Iscariot would have a warmer reception," said Terra Vance, an Appalachian activist who genealogy records show shares some ancestors with the politician. Terra and JD Vance are distant cousins who have never met. They grew up in different states, with family lineage that intersected generations ago. But now, as the U.S. senator from Ohio leans on his Appalachian roots in his campaign for the White House, Terra Vance has garnered a following as a fiery and knowledgeable critic. The 44-year-old disability rights nonprofit founder from Logan, W.Va. — population: 1,365 — presents herself as the "authentic hillbilly Vance" to thousands of online followers, swatting down stereotypes about the South as she gives an alternative version of what it means to be Appalachian. Aware that her views are unpopular in a region where "Trump-Vance" signs dominate the landscape, Terra Vance doesn't post pictures of herself on social media and declined to be photographed for this article. She sees JD Vance's 2016 memoir, "Hillbilly Elegy," and how he's used his background to appeal to voters since as a disservice to her hometown and last name. In her view, his story blames people who have been exploited — in some cases by the coal mining and pharmaceutical industries — for their own exploitation while painting himself as special for escaping the same fate. "He cosplayed a hillbilly and tokenized himself as the golden child who worked hard to overcome adversity," Terra Vance said. "What he's peddling now — what he is doing to other marginalized groups — is exactly what has always been done to us." Others have joined in since she started posting online. On her social media pages, where she shares facts about her Melungeon heritage — a lesser known mixed race rooted in Appalachia — and raises awareness about her neighbors' lack of clean water access, residents of the region have called the vice presidential candidate a "shillbilly"; circulated a #heaintfromhere hashtag and joked that he's the kind of guy that puts his cast iron skillet in the dishwasher. In "Hillbilly Elegy," a best-selling book that was made into a movie, Vance describes his unstable childhood in Ohio shaped by poverty and his mother's addiction. His no-nonsense, gun-wielding grandmother from Kentucky serves as a memorable main character. He laments the use of welfare programs he saw growing up and complains that people don't work hard enough. As for his family's circumstances, "the fault lies almost entirely with factors outside the government's control," he wrote. That doesn't sit right with Terra Vance, whose father — "a real Vance," she says — worked in the coal mines for 40 years; where he once snapped his sternum when a mountain collapsed on him. He still struggles with black lung disease, she said, and joint pain from time spent crawling underground. He was laid off as the industry declined. Terra Vance and JD Vance have more in common than a name. They both call their grandparents "mamaw" and "papaw"; they know what it's like to be made fun of for where they're from and they have both been shaped by towns that are shells of once-booming industries. For him, Ohio steel; for her, West Virginia coal. The primary difference between them, Terra Vance says, is he is disconnected from what he calls his "cultural inheritance," while she is a proud defender. Continued...
Issues - Kamala Harris for President: Official Campaign Website If you "read more" you find this toward the end:
