The reason why Morey's moves seem to come out of nowhere

This post really shows the value of preparation mixed with hard work which creates "magical" moments when the timing is correct. Nice post OP. A deserving rep

 

Or is it something else...?

Spoiler

 

This is me too. Max said it in another thread, show me the wins in the playoffs. Draft or trade for a star. Just do it and we will jock ride later.

 

Well...we did win more playoff games last year than we have in over a decade.

That's fine that you want to wait until we got the rings before you give him the ultimate praise, but you can't help but be impressed how he has turned a team that had tons of extremely unproductive, overpaid players into one where practically every player on the roster is productive and on a value contract.

This organization is headed in the right direction, and its Morey steering it.

 

3. Low 1st rounders and 2nd rounders used to be worthless - Before Morey, how many of you actually believes low 1st rounders and 2nd rounders can make a big impact on teams? How many feel it's just a roll of dice and hope it comes out well? But Morey thought differently. He feels if we scout enough, we can raise the odds.

look at the Spurs
Parker - late 1st round
Ginobili - 2nd round

 

Morey never reveals his thinking! Suddenly like a Wizard he produces a surprise result from all his hard work. that is why i can't understand all the Bosh news and activity, because it looks more and more like a smoke screen and nothing has been revealed yet- not even Plan a or B.

 

I liken this thread to finding out Santa Claus doesn't really exist. Why did you have to ruin it for me! Why?

 

i think he's done a good job,but where are we? 1 playoff ser win and the lotto.

 

Thanks to a Yao ming injury on a team that was poised to do much more...

 

Thanks to coach playing yao heavy minutes even early in regular season coming off a major injury the prior year and owner/gm refuse to pay up for a good backup center.

 

I kinda don't see it as Morey never showing his hand, but as Morey always following the most logical path. He doesn't share information if there's no benefit. Why is he talking up Bosh, because there's a benefit. Bosh has to want to come here, and Morey knows that butt-kissing will help persuade. As well, he doesn't see the point in hiding the obvious, or what the general public would figure out on thier own.

It's obvious that we need a big, so go ahead and say we're getting a big in the draft...that's what everyone guesses anyway. Go ahead and say that we need to get an all-star caliber player, because we obviously need one. And say we'd do it through S&T, because we don't have any other choice.

And as said many times, Morey never puts all his eggs in one basket. He's got several backup plans, some we know about (Rubio), and some we don't.

 

I playoff series win and a lotto team....that was missing its 17 million dollar center and was absent its 23 million dollar playmaker.

You can't expect Morey to magically turn a franchise built around two overpaid fragile players with no role players into a championship contender overnight. The work he's done overhauling this franchise is absolutely remarkable.

The only questoin mark left to deal with is Yao. This coming year could be Yao's last as a Rocket if he doesn't really show us something, and I trust Morey to make the right decision.

 

awesome thread and definitely a reality check with our our organization works. the harder you work, the more luck comes your way

 

Wasn't a lot of scouting needed with these two players. Anyone that watched college basketball could realize both players had the ability to play ball in the NBA, especially Budinger. Only reason Budinger fell was skin color.... and thats the truth.

 

If you had 1 million and ended up with 900K, you failed. If you had 100K and ended up with 200K within a short time, you are wildly successful. One failed with the result of 900K while the other highly succeeded with the result of 200K.

You have to look at what you have to begin with to measure success. In other words, everything has to be put in context. Think of what we had two years ago and what we have now.

Besides, even if you worked your butt off and made all the right decisions, you would just be halfway to success. The other half is not in your control: what other teams do, the players' own decisions, injuries, the larger NBA environment, and just plain luck.

For example, not every #1 pick has the same value because players like LeBron and Hakeem don't come along every year. If you had the first pick of the draft, the best you could do is make sure you pick the best guy of the class and hope that he has greatness in him. You don't have control of what players are there in that draft.

Former Cowboys coach Jimmy Johnson once said, "You can't expect the team to win it all every year. But you can expect us to be in the position to win it all every year." It's not as simple as that, but I think that's what we should expect the GM to shoot for. And I think Morey is shooting for that in the right way.

 

Not to put a damper on things, and I love and believe in Morey too, but how do you know other GMs don't work as hard to make trades happen?




I think the only explanation left is that Morey truly is a genius and has Jedi powers to wield other GMs to his will!

 

Do you understand that an actor Sir Ian McKellen is not gandalf? gandalf is not gay.

thank you

 

We've been down this road a million times and I've said he's a good gm, but at the same token, i don't see the rockets with or without yao head and shoulders above anyone else who don't use the same tactics. Brooks,landry,scola,chase, are good players and good value, but are they any better than when the spurs got manu and parker at the end of the round and in the 2nd rd? Or when dallas got howard at the end of the first and daniels was undrafted? What about Tayshaun at the bottom? Cassell and mobley as late first and 2nd rd picks? See, I'm not the type thats enamored with a bunch of different moves that keep the team in the same spot. Whether posters think its fair or not by me or others that have the same thoughts, but we are no closer to a title than we were 5 yrs ago and picking in the lotto. I would argue that we're probably further back because the other teams are stronger and have a clear cut franchise type guy or guys. I like the whole assett thing and that works if you can turn those assets into something great. Right now or up until now we haven't and we're stuck in the middle.

Just realistically and just in our own division, which teams need more to get to the top or stay at the top in our division? I know this is a rockets board, but other than probably the grizz, its the rockets. Even the hornets aren't as big of a move away from being on top than the rox? Why? because they have a great player. not good,not ok,but great. They also have some good players to go along. They can make 1 trade that doesn't even require a blockbuster and be back as division champs and thats something the rockets haven't said since 97. If you want to call me a debbie downer or pessimist, go ahead, but i'm just real and see it through the bs. This is a mediocre team with good talent and good coaching that can't win or even sniff the finals unless something huge turns in our favor. The cahnces of that huge thing happening doesn't appear likely anytime soon. So we can keep going on and on about these amazing tactics, but none of it has yielded the rockets anything tangible in terms of success. We're not under the cap,and we're not an elite team.

 

So you don't think its impressive that without Yao or McGrady (but with their salaries) we finished ahead of those Hornets you're talking about? We had an active payroll of 30 million most of the season, and we were competitive. I would stop any "we're mediocre, look at the record" arguments until we're actually playing with anywhere close to a full deck. Its not like last years Rockets, with Chuck Hayes at center, are Morey's dream team Rockets. Next year we get to see if Yao can come back. If he can't we let him expire and move on. We have all the assets in the world to make our team better.

This team is in far better position than you give it credit.