I did intend to convey it negatively. Adelman was brought in to make the offense better and make Yao's and McGrady's lives easier. I was disappointed that the new offense couldn't work well. BTW, I do not agree with people who say that the system did not (and will not) work because Yao and TMac aren't suitable for it. I believe that both of them are high IQ players who have the tools to thrive in that system. The fact that Adelman aren't giving up on the new offense means that he believes if the system was executed the way he planned, it would have been a lot better than last year's result. I agree that JVG's system is optimal for transition defense. There is a trade off there. I know you are a defense guy. That is fine. The bottom line is what is the best way to win more games in the regular season and to win in the playoffs. I don't think either of us has a definite answer. I trust Adelman too to know when to put in what to achieve the ultimate goal.
Interesting thing about that article was Adelman's quotes about how he expected players to fall in line and play the system: “We’re going to demand a little bit differently now that they understand what we want to do.” "I think it’s just going to be (a matter of) time. These guys have to be a little bit more obedient and they have to execute a little bit better. We don’t want to make a ton of calls. We want to play (with) movement on the pass." It was pretty obvious to me last year that there was some resistance to playing the system on the part of some of the players. Now that the team's loaded with talent anybody who refuses to pass the damn ball and cut should be benched.
I'm all for trying to install the Adelman offense, but I'm worried that they'll have the same problem with adoption that they had last season.
I think Yao was the main culprit and I was more critical of him early last year than I've ever been. But to be honest I think there was a shockwave with the players after JVG "resigned". I know there was a big one here. This year it seems obvious everyone on the team is completely behind Adelman, but I still feel there's still a predominant "JVG was right" mindset here. And I don't understand it after what Adelman accomplishled last year. Still, those "Yao shouldn't be away from the basket" guys felt vindicated after Adelman just needed W's and scrapped most of his offense. Ironically Yao began playing more instinctively before he went down and the team took off. Afterward, the team continued the streak playing almost as they had when Yao was there. We were very close to something special last year and I believe Adelman will deliver more this year than people think. And Yao will go through less pounding.
Just like the MJ and the Triangle, if Yao is dominating, the last 10 minutes of the game will be Yao in the low post rather than a motion offense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JlTMeLfoMA sorry i don't know how to put up the youtube code to make it viewable but if rick can make the rockets play his motion offense like the one in the vid, ROCKETS basketball is going to be a thing of beauty to watch this season.
Adelman knows offense, he also knows how to utilize superstars. This talk about turning Yao and Tmac into role players is ridiculous. Drexler is probably the most talented player Rick ever coached and he did just fine. With the talent we have on our roster, we should be excited about the possiblities rather than concerned about the changes. With Tmac, Yao, Artest, and Scola we should be scoring more than 100+ a game. No more excuses, we need to look like an Adelman team from here on out.
Many players from JVG era need to buy into Adelman's offense. everytime, like in this thread, you hear They(Yao, TMAC, Rafer, Battier and JVG fans) rant: JVG offense gave us 55 wins and 22 win streak, Give us JVG we might have done better. TMAC and Yao were both playing the best in JVG system. Adelman needs to tell them: you guys were playing ugly basketball. JVG offense gave you nothing but multiple 1st round exits. TMAC and Yao's TEAM sucked. Luckily we have new guys: Scola, Artest, Barry, Dorsey, Brooks, Landry, also you can tell Hayes, Head, Yao and Rafer are willing to learn Adelman's system. It wont be a disaster ahead.
but i TRULY hope they do make use a lot of his offene b/c it will only take us to another level. the thing adelman emphasized is to REDUCE the load of tmac and yao and to lessen the focus of them on the opponents -> they will get better shots, but also others will be able to have bigger roles and thus will be more prepared for the playoffs. we have a DEEP team. now we need to make it a more BALANCED team on both ends. when we do not rely on tracy or yao ONLY to win games, that is the day where we can say we're a true championship contender.
It depends. Only in close games when every possession is crucial. I think the beauty is, when you have Yao, you can ALWAYS go back to the pound-it-inside offense when in doubt. Adelman never had a big man who could do that. But in normal flow of the game, Adelman's offense will make everything come by a lot easier. BTW, the most important element in Adelman's system is not high post or low post. It is "read." A lot of people simply equate his offense as putting the big man in the high post. That's not true. Rvery player should read the defense and move accordingly. Yao moving to the low post (or high post) is as much a part of it as any other player's movement. In the old system, Yao in the low post is a called play, and therefore is predictable. Now Yao in the low post is a movement based on reading what the defense is giving you.
Yeah, starting in the high post is a means for Yao to shed his defenders and to open the lane for cutters/movement. Then Yao can look for the opportunity to drop down into deep low block position, because the defense is busy with the cutters. Of course, that's not the only way to do it. Rudy had an effective set play to achieve the same thing, pretty much a 3 man game with Yao in the high post and MoT in the opposite low post with Francis/Yao running a PnR for the main purpose to get trapped. Drawing the trap on SF, Yao slides down and the PF moves up. If the opposing PF sticks to his man, Yao is open. If not, Francis gave the ball to MoT at the elbow for a freebie money shot/drive or he uses his passing angle to get it into Yao. JVG liked that play enough to keep it. Don't really have a reason for bringing this up, but to say I really like that play, and we can call it a Triangle play. Under Adelman, maybe that becomes initial, basic movement, where he teaches the team (and the other 2 players standing on the arc) to read and react should the primary options of that play fail/stale, such as Yao getting the ball, but not in a suit spot as planned. And clear-out and cut is the final option, so to speak.
I just don't want the defense to suffer. That's my main thing. We can do whatever we have to do for the offense but the defense is going to be very important this year.
Well with Michael Jordan and the Bulls in 88-89, they were a solid team which did get to the 2nd round and lost to the eventual champion Pistons, but the problem was, the offense with Doug Collins was get Jordan the ball, and all the decisions go through him. It was up to him to pass the ball, or score. Jordan was basically never wrong (with good reason, he did average 37 ppg in 87-88 and 35 ppg in 88-89) However, when Phil Jackson took over, he knew that Jordan was a superstar that couldn't be stopped, but he couldn't outscore teams by himself and the Pistons and Celtics proved that to them. So Phil brought in his Triangle offense which relied on moving without the ball and moving the ball, instead of relying so much on Jordan isolating. I'm sure Jordan was furious at first, but eventually Jackson got Jordan to realize that he can't win a title by himself and that he with 4 other players being effective would be unstoppable rather than him playing 1 on 5 all game. The first year they improved, but still ultimately lost to the Pistons in the ECF. But then the next year, they learned the offense better, Jordan became a much better all around player rather than just a scorer and a shut down defender, and the Bulls Dynasty took off from there. Change can be good or bad, but you can never settle for mediocrity. Thats what we were last year offensively outside of Yao and Tmac. They still had to do a lot by themselves. We showed flashes of great teamwork during the 22 game winning streak, but we need to play with that kind of cohesiveness for 82 games and the Playoffs. Rick Adelman knows it, and with all the offensive weapons we have this year, why not do it? If you isolate the Big 3, thats probably 60 shots right there...You eliminate a lot from Scola, Battier, Landry, Barry, and others who could contribute on the offensive end if used right. This offense gets everybody involved. The Kings used to have 7 players average double figures!!! Imagine the Rockets with even 5 or 6 players averaging double figures with our defense...a really scary team. That hasn't been said since Dream was here in his prime.
i trust adelman. he's one of the best and at the same time one of the most underrated coaches of all time.
Thats because yao's role wont change all that much. its not were making him a roll player. there just asking him to comeout to the high post a bit more.
The first year JVG had T-Mac and Yao healthy with good passers, the offense didn't look THAT bad. We did go through droughts then but we also never had this much talent either so maybe the change is required. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/sovnP-dEj5E&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/sovnP-dEj5E&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/5cvNCqWvVrc&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/5cvNCqWvVrc&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
Weve tried having two guys dominating the offense, it hasnt worked probaly due to injuries and lack of depth. but it's not gonna win you a ring. were now gonna ask the big two to sacrafice a bit of there offense for the better of the team. depth and balance will overwhelm a team that relies on two players to be there majority points scorers. depth and balance. thats the opreative word here. the kings used to have seven to eight players scoring in the low teens or high teens. thats just incrdible amount of balance. thats what we should be striving for.
there's no doubt that the Sura, Barry, Wesley year with JVG was the best fastbreaking Rockets team in 10 yrs for sure, and imo, ever since the 80s.
Are you serious? Either way I just loved the 04-05 rockets...they had great chemistry, toughness, health, and T-Mac had great athleticism. Hopefully with this team we can surpass that. Here's one more video for the road... Cavs vs Rockets 03-24-05 ( by R2K) Spoiler <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/X1NcXnyQTv0&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/X1NcXnyQTv0&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
