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The real RA offense coming or a disaster ahead?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by lastreg, Oct 1, 2008.

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  1. BrooksBall

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    RA and crew said the exact same thing last year about implementing the "offense" but I didn't see much drastic change, so I expect it to look the same this year. With the exception of Artest.
     
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    Did you even read the article?
     
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    The premise of this "new" offense sounds good. Last year, despite having an offensive guru like Adelman, we were still extremely predictable --- even with Yao in the line up.

    I the like idea of making the opponents think. It's a whole different game whenever you're breaking down a play on a dry erase board then when you're in an actual game situation, forced to make decisions on the fly. Hopefully, this is the type of dynamic we can add.
     
  5. Noob Cake

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    Talent > "Tactics"

    We are so stacked that nothing but injury matters. (only the Fakers come close/match talent wise)
     
  6. Easy

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    You didn't see much drastic change because they couldn't execute it well and they needed to win games. That's why Adelman was forced to go back to the old way.

    I am glad Adelman does not give up trying to implement it again this season. We have more offensive talent now, and the players have learned it for a year.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    This team has so many weapons....and if they run Rick's offense it will only get better ...

    Our year baby....can you say 70?

    DD
     
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    You can say 70 all you want.

    Realistically 60 - 63 wins is our absolute ceiling. We are too susceptible to injury, you just know that at least one of our big 3 isnt going to play more than 70 games.

    Not only that, the West is again hyper-competive.

    I will be happy with a top 4 seed, ecstatic with a top 2 seed.
     
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    Remember when Tmac went out in December and we started turning it around? Everyone was passing the ball around like crazy. The ball movement was fantastic. It certainly showed in the Denver game we lost. We were anything but predictable. We need that back.
     
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    More losses. we need that.
     
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    I don't like the sound of that. Moving your best post scorer out so that guys like rafer have more room to score? That's the plan? Yao Ming is not Brad Miller and if you use him like Brad you are wasting a huge talent. Rick - you have to make some adjustments for the players you have or you have to trade the players you have for the players you need to make "your" offense work.

    My expectations of the start of this season is dropping...
     
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    Last year when we started out using for the first month T-Mac jumped out the gate as the MVP candidate. He was playing off the ball and getting the ball in easy spots to score or assist rather than the usual iso and pnr from 35ft. T-Mac is not the issue here. Artest already knows how to play in this system. You could easily feed him for some quick hitters when he cuts down low because most wing players can't stop him from getting position.

    Chuck Hayes inability to catch and finish was a problem. Adelman's offense requires the bigs to have good hands. It will work much better with always on the move Scola now in that starting spot. Last year when T-Mac went out and Scola was inserted into the starting line-up the ball started moving again. Even when T-Mac came back the ball was still moving. The ball stopped moving as much when Yao went out because once again we had a set or iron hands in the line-up, this time in the form of Mutombo.

    Head is also a major problem. He can cut, but too often we find him being the one passing to the cutter, which 90% of the time results in a turnover. Brent Barry should remedy that situation real quick. With him there Aaron Brooks could come in and be more of a scorer which he naturally is and not have to worry about being a facilitator.

    I see no problem with continuing to implement the offense. We got 2 very helpful players this offseason which should also force Brooks and Head to play in roles they're better suited for. And with Scola and Landry getting the bulk of the minutes Hayes can be reduced to strictly doing the dirty work.
     
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    It's not about yao. its about who to maximiaze the potential of the whole team.
     
  14. GermanRoxFan

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    can you say ridicously overblown expectations? :rolleyes:
     
  15. DaDakota

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    ROFLMAO...come on...live a little.

    Of course 70 is out of the question...but 60 isn't.....

    I think the team remains healthy....and they win the WC by at least 4 games.

    DD
     
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    People say if it ain't broke don't fix it, but in this case why shouldn't we shoot for having the best defense AND the best offense? Highly doubt anything will "break" installing the offense from our old ofttimes 1-dimensional offense (either pound it into Yao or give it to T-Mac and he'll do something), we still have those old options if we need them, and plus it'll be more exciting.
     
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    I agree but I don't think you can reach the potential of the team by not using the strength of your players. I don't think it is wise to pull a good big man out to make more room for rafer to head to the paint. And I don't think a fragile TMac will last too long he he's finding more time in the paint. Personally I see TMac going down sooner, Yao's numbers going down and more frustration as we try to get role player more shots while our big 3 play roles. I don't see that as a recipe for success.
     
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    yea yao struggled mightily last yr to start the season. he was one of the reasons we had to go back to how we played last yr.

    just put yao in the post and run the offense in the high post through scola or tmac or artest if he wants to do that.
     
  19. lastreg

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    Exactly. Yao really is not suitable for RA style for: lack of movability on high post and inability to shoot jumpers from there and his pass uo there is way too predictable and hence subjuct to be stolen.

    If we have this group people + JVG, we might be reach the destination.
     
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    don't say it so negatively. I could rewrite your quote in a more positive manner that conveys the same thing:

    <i>"You didn't see much drastic change because they executed [a set offense] better, and they needed to win games. That's why Adelman decided to stick with what works and delivers 55 wins. Too bad Yao got injured while he was perfecting his low post game to the tune of 16 wins in a row in games he played."</i>

    Doesn't that convey the same thing as your original post, but in a more positive manner.

    that said: I'm not against anything Adelman decides. He is smart enough to know when his system is not the best thing for a team. He doesn't have an ego. I can understand why he wants to practice it for the bench players, even if he goes with what works with the starters....especially in the end game.

    I will say one negative thing...when you invert the post, it almost a Law of NBA Physics that dictates your transition defense worses vs offenses that keep your guards/wings out high to maximize their ability to transition into your first line of defense.
     

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