The real question: Yao or T-Mac

So the title of this thread should be who would you "TRUST MORE WHILE LEADING A TEAM."

FIRST OFF.

I wanna start this by stop with the tracy or yao thing. This was the first year i saw our chemistry and everything meshing under adelman we reached new heights. I guarantee you we could have beat the Jazz with that team. I never really realized how much i missed the big man playing and how a guy of his size could be blessed with so much talent. However when leading a team, the evidence doesn't lie. Tracy exploits our roster and gets us somewhere every year, he is a SG mainly but he can do just about anything on the court. He can post up, play point, shoot the midrange, shoot the 3. When its only Yao i notice that our offense gets extremely stagnant. Whenever Tracy plays he makes Rafer look good b.c he is doing his job 90% of the time but when Tracy goes out Rafer is exposed. If we had a good PG i would take Yao leading the team.

 

i've told my story. not again. but basically i cursed at someone for once.

i've noticed much "older" rookies though. lol. and you still didn't let me know how to start a thread as a "rookie". my guess is you are a member, but changed your profile to fool people. either that, or you're just downgraded after you started this thread.

 

C'mon...Really?

Yao...If you don't believe me, just look at the playoffs...

 

Clutch hasn't locked this thread yet.

Is this like the 23,000 "Yao or T-Mac" we've gotten in the last 4 years, give it rest.


I guess we can expect a sequel....like Sunday, right.

 

Say that to me after Yao can play more than 30 games a season again. Give him another 5 years and he will finally realize his potential...iiiight.

 

it doesn't matter as we win.

but if anything shows in the last 2 games of the playoff series, adelman has figured out how to at least utilize tracy. watch for the guy to operate A LOT at the high post/triple threat. tmac has TONS of options operating from there.

i think when yao is in the game, tracy should try to look to be a PG. tmac is the only guy that can get his any time. when yao is in there, try to get his as many touches as possible. but we gotta find ways to get yao easier scores (dunks/layups) when he's being trapped/doubled quickly.

 

Well maybe Clutch is tried too of reading 'x or y?' threads....

I am not saying it is the worst thread i have ever read but it is not the best either

 

I'm almost certain its because it represents the unfortunate progression of most threads around here. Somebody will make a serious thead and it usually degenerates into a battle between how affective/ineffective one of Yao/Tmac are. Then it becomes t_mac1 vs wekko.

Look at the end of alot of these threads you'll see what i mean.

 

i've always stood by my point that yao is a great, borderline superstar type of player. his weaknesses are widely known so it's not like i'm making things up. at least i don't put yao down. i've always stated he's the best offensive post player in the L today.

wekko actually has said tmac is just an "above average" player in a few posts.

 

Thats because a lot of the people on here are just pure haters.

They put forth arguments with no base and spew spam on "TRADE MCCANCER" or "HE DESERVES EVERY NAME HE'S BEEN CALLED BECAUSE HES NEVER GOTTEN OUT OF THE FIRST ROUND."

I just feel bad for the rocket fans who have to put up with that and like you said about how it degenerates into a battle between 2 people at the end.

 

I wouldn't pay much attention to the guy that said our streak was a ...





FLUKE.

 

Yeah, its not really anything against you two, i just get tired of talking about it when there are other important things to talk about.

I understand you're point on the hate though. No one really hates Yao, they know he'll never be on Hakeem level but they also know he's really good. When it comes to Tracy most people have higher expectations of him and people don't like it when people don't meet their expectations. That's really what it boils down to. He's not the first player in the world to have those types of defficiencies but people expect him to be so great that it makes them angry.

Think about it. Which would be bigger news if Tmac dropped 40 pts or 4pts in a playoff game? Now ask that same question for Ginobli and the other players people compare him to. If he does great things then its business as usual, if he does less than he is a loser.

 

things' going down like who should be blamed for X failures.

 

i understand. but he usually plays up to his potential in the playoffs. 28, 7, 6 are legendary type of stats. the reg. season the past few years have not be up to his standards and usually people criticize his lack of intensity during the reg. season and i can't argue against that. i really only care if tmac shows up in the playoffs and he has does that.

i agree most people accept yao's deficiencies but appreciate the guy b/c he always tries, which i do too (something tracy def. can learn from).

but again, our 2 stars have deficiencies. but doesn't the big 3? doesn't duncan? don't most great players also?

the problem with our team is the talent around those 2 are not as good.

the lakers have the best offensive team in a while even SANS kobe at times. when do you hear the word best offensive team with our team?

the lakers have the best bench. when do you hear that with our team?

 

The real issue with T-Mac and the fans is his health. There's a sense that he's peaked and that every year down the road just represents a further degradation of his skills. When that's the case it's natural to resent the guy's huge salary. If he was making Manu money people would love him and talk about what an overachiever he was.

Also, he's been in Houston for a while and nothing has happened. The window is getting smaller and smaller and people are wondering if the core is going to be able to accomplish anything.

 

tmac has peaked. yao has also peaked. yao hasn't been the same offensive player since the 05-06 season. and he's been injured. tmac and yao are in the same conundrum.