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The re-birth of the Right

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Major, Mar 1, 2009.

  1. GladiatoRowdy

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    That is a huge part of why I like you posting here. We disagree on many things, but we do so in a civil manner without name calling, just honest, open debate and discussion. I wish more of your compatriots shared your posting style.
     
  2. Deckard

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    Max and Refman are more like some of the Republicans I know in "real life," as opposed to whatever we might call the "typical" GOP denizens of the Monkey House here at ClutchFans. Folks that you might disagree with on some of the issues, from time to time, but in a civil way. Moderate conservatives, that aren't "dug in" on the different social issues, but have open minds on most topics, while being fiscally conservative in the traditional sense. Balanced budgets, prudent spending, not seeing tax cuts as the panacea for all fiscal ills, certainly not something that is a good idea while in the throes of two wars. Understanding that the less fortunate should be helped back onto their feet, not rediculed. Willing to make sacrifices during a national crisis, domestic or foreign. Willing to look with an open mind at non-traditional solutions to complex problems.

    I know Republicans like that. They are just rare in D&D. One could spin that around and say something similar about the Democrats here. It bugs me that so many try to lump everyone into one pigeon hole or another. Some of us don't fit, and like it that way.
     
  3. MadMax

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    dude, i'm not a republican!!!
     
  4. rocket3forlife2

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    I agree with a lot of your points, but I'm pretty happy with the efforts of my party for the most part. The problem I have is not the effort or the ideas, it's the mishandling and the mismanagement of theses ideas. When the media uncovers corruption from an official in my party, I don’t pretend like basso that it didn’t happen. Honestly, I don’t care who gets the job done, but I can’t vote for anyone that seems insensitive to what’s going on in my community, and so far the G.O.P_ssy has been out of touch. If there were Republicans who were more liberal on social issues, then I wouldn’t mind voting for one every now and then.
     
  5. Refman

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    Tell me another one Max...I just spat Coca-Cola across the room when I read that. ;)
     
  6. rocket3forlife2

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    Nope to that guy!


    Not only do you get off because you have money, but you're likely to go to jail if your poor even if you are innocent.It just depends on if the prosecutor have enough to convict you are not, it's not about you being innocent or guilty.The justice system is about scoring points and making money.The judges, lawyers, cops all go out to the dinner afterwords win or lose.
     
  7. MadMax

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    I wouldn't vote Republican right now...aside from judges I know who I respect.
     
  8. Refman

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    This is funny..because right now you couldn't pay me enough to vote for a Republican judge. For the most part, they're awful.
     
  9. Deckard

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    I'm sorry!!! (and thank goodness! ;) )
     
  10. MoonDogg

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    I can respect that. As long as a person is able to keep an open mind and is able to acknowledge the faults within their own party before they go trashing the other party, then that's cool. And also the ability to admit that the other party is right sometimes too.

    Personally, I think conservatives and liberals both have good ideas in different areas and we have to have both views within our govt to adequately represent and govern this very diverse country.

    It's the current divisive structure I rail against and those that blindly follow the partisan pied pipers. Think for yourself is the key.
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    Of course you would say that because you are a no good replicant and we all know that replicants can't be trusted and spend their free time palling around with Bill Ayers and doing drugs with Rush Limbaugh. :p
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    There is nothing wrong with being a Republican. If being a Republican means a tendency to less government interference in the economy, a decentralization of power to the states, a cautious conservatism, strong defense and in favor of Judeo-Christian values then I don't think there anything to be ashamed of those.

    This country needs at least two parties and the history of this country shows that one party domination is rarely a good thing. Republicans are down for the moment, and hopefully not out, but eventually things will change. I think a certain amount of time in the wilderness will help the Republicans to sharpen their message and develop new leadership and within a few years they will be competitive again.
     
  13. Bogey

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    I consider myself a conservative, but not necessarily a Republican, but I really like your description in the first paragraph.
     
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    It doesn't and that is the problem.
     
  15. MadMax

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    Really?? You mean those that are appointed, right...you're all federal, right??

    I think we lost a few really good judges when the D's took over the county courthouse. Just as we lost a few really good judges when the R's took over the county courthouse years earlier.
     
  16. MadMax

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    all that's fine and well...i agree it's ok to be a republican too. i'm just not. i don't identify with that at all.
     
  17. Bogey

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    This is how I wish D&D would be. I didn't use to be much into politics, but have recently stated to pay alot more attention to it. Since I do not know many liberals I like to come here to see a different point of view, but find it hard to have a good discussion with out getting into some kind of pissing contest.

    I know I can come off as ignorant when I voice my veiwpoint and often times I can be. That's part of the reason I come to D&D, to see the other side. It's not often that I will change my mind, but it is still nice to see opposing viewpoints.

    I even think those on the far left and the "wingnuts" as everyone calls them even have some good points at times, the delivery is what causes all the problems.
     
  18. CrazyDave

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    I'd say at least more than two parties, if not an digression from the party system in general. This country needs to quit focusing on parties all together, imo, and focus on finding common ground on issues, character, and solutions. Too much energy is spent doing just what the op article summary says, marketing the party, instead of focusing on values. As for the first paragraph, it sounds nice, but terms like "cautious conservatism" is an awfully subjective term these days.

    Bottom line, the W admin's lack of ability to be accountable for their abuses and/or missteps both at home and abroad, combined with trying economic times capping their term, has soured people on the GOP, whether fair or not, whether he represented the party's identity well or not. Obama is the backlash. The GOP can fingerpoint, and cheerlead their way back, hoping to "market" themselves back into power from this renewed self esteem issue, or they can focus on actual issues, character and solutions, appealing to the "common American."

    Right now, it appears they have more faith in a divisive and marketing-minded radio show host than true leaders.

    Good luck, see you in 8 years... maybe.
     
  19. rimrocker

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    Sweet. A MadMax/Refman throwdown!
     
  20. MadMax

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    unlikely :)
    we disagree on more than a few items, but refman is good peeps.
     

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