As far as MKE trading their best player--players get unhappy all the time and get moved. Michael Redd is not that kind of player by many indications, however. I guess my point was that such a trade is in fact feasible, which surprised me. In that hypothetical, the Rockets didn't give up the farm and got (IMO) the NBA's second best shooter after Ray Allen. MKE would be an obvious loser in the deal, thus why it won'te happen. Throw in the fact that Larry Harris somehow for T.O. to take TJ Ford for Villanueva and I'd say the he certainly isn't one of the dumbest GMs around.
What if's are unlikely to happen therefore my humble advice is to make Random Trade Ideas that are realistic and of potential benefit to the Rockets. I don't mean to offend anyone by my suggestion.
I see now some people want Zach-didn't I propose this like ten days ago and people slept through it? Same old BBSBS. How about we make this thread be "random trade idea and you can't shoot down the idea unless you come up with your own". I think some people can't add that's why they don't go to Realgm.Too confusing. I realize people were shooting down the idea that the earth was round long before I put this three way trade before you. Rockets trade JHO to MIL and Sura to PORT Blazers trade Zach to HOU,Jack and Blake to MIL Bucks trade Magloire to PORT BY GOD IT WORKS, DON'T LISTEN TO THE HATERS CD,DO IT NOW THE BUCKS would end up with Jack and Blake as being rumored and receive more valuable player in Howard than HA.
How about.. Howard/Head/Sura/Bowen for Steve Francis or Howard/Alston/Sura/Bowen for Francis/David Lee In either case we get an All star point guard and I can definitely see NY waiving both Sura and Bowen. We could resign Bobby but hopefully not Bowen. I like the first scenario best because we keep Alston as a backup even though we lose Head I really believe Francis can be molded into a Chauncey Billups type PG if JVG can get through to him. That is the type of PG this team desperately needs.
Howard and our first-round pick 2007 for Gerald Wallace, then sign Lonny Baxter as backup PF/C for the minimum. PG: Alston, Spanoulis, Lucas SG: Wallace, Head, Snyder, (Sura) SF: McGrady, Bowen, Novak PF: Battier, Hayes, Baxter C: Ming, Mutombo
why would charlotte do this trade? they have okafor and sean may already. although they both missed a ton of games last year, the two of them should be ready to go. they also got othella to play some PF if they need too. isn't wallace more of a SF?
Truthfully speaking, I would not mind seeing Franchise back with the Rockets since I think he would bust tail to get back to where he was during his first three seasons skill-wise. Why would he do that one may ask? I think Steve has spent enough time in the doldrums of the NBA with the likes of Orlando and the embarassingly pitiful NY. If the opportunity to come back to a team that he obviously liked playing for (team not coach though I think he must have mature enough by now) arises, he would do everything in his power to redeem himself. Any way these are words typed in vain as this deal would fall within the category that boasts the song that has made recent runs on radio adds that goes something like......."Mr. Proposterous trade pro-POS-ERRRR!!" As much as I would like to dust off my old Francis jersey and hope to take it to a Finals game at the Toyota Center...I know this is only wishful thinking. Trade Evaluation: Overpaid Garbage (Howard, Sura,Alston, Bowen) w/ a side of potential(Head) FOR Overpaid, but very productive Steve Francis. Were this to be proposed last year when Isaiah was at the pinnacle of his "Idiot-dom" and before Dolen gave him his ultimatum...this would have had a chance. Now? Nope!!!!!
I just dont understand why we seem so eager to play people 'out of position'... Lookin for a SG? Why, we've got one of the best in the league..TMAC! TMACs greatest moments are on the perimeter..so why play him down low? His back is a constant issue...so why have him banging down low? Let the man return to his TRUE position as SG (ie Kobe-hissss)! TMAC with Head or Snider as backup is solid (If Sura can play, even better, means we can deal Head with Juwans bloated contract) Next, Battier and Hayes ARE SFs - Battier can be an allstar SF - why push him into PF? I like Chuck Hayes - cheered him on at the Vegas Summer league, loved his hustle, talked to and got an autograph from him - but he is not built for PF - would however be a great backup SF! Battier/Hayes is a strong combo at SF - why screw with it!? Center is solid...Ming and Mutumbo can carry the load...and keep Lonny Baxter on speed dial in the event of an injury - Lonny doesnt have the ideal length for center...but, like I sais...'in the event of injury' (assuming we dont have the roster spot to keep him as a #3 PF) PG....yeah, we can tinker there, although I dint think its necessary...Alston is no allstar, Vspan has yet to prove himself, and JL3 still has a year or two develop into a solid #2.....but really, what realistic options exist? Nobody is gonna give up a better PG, unless their an attitude problem - and we dont need a malcontent. So, i think Alston/VSpan/JL3 isnt gonna win a championship for us...but if done properly, could be proficient enough to allow the rest of the team to win it! PF...thats the issue (as everyone on the BBS seems to know). I like Novak as the #2 at the position...will allow us to spread the floor and open up the paint....when we can withstand the potential defensive liability. Lonny Baxter, another guy who worked hard at the summer league, would be ideal as #3 PF (once again, if we have the roster spot).. Soooooooooo.....Its Juwan/Bowen/Head for a PF who can rebound and defend, any scoring aptitude is just a bonus...(and I still think Kelvin Cato can fill this need) QUESTION...does anyone know the story on Lampe? Played for Phoenix summer league, but still on our roster....he's another guy, that contray to expressed opinions, could be beneficail to us, if used properly...great outside touch and the size to BU at Center if needbe Sorry to retread any previous thought, but just wanted to put em all together... C Ming/Mutumbo............A PF Cato/Novak...............B SF Battier/Hayes.............A- SG TMAC/Snider/Sura?.....A+ (if all healthy) PG Alston/Vspan/JL3.......C+ (with great potential upside) There's your 12 man roster...with Baxter and/or Lampe on speed dial I'd say that a 50 win team...and once the playoffs begin, its anyones ballgame!
Houston Trade Breakdown Outgoing Ryan Bowen 6-9 SF from Iowa 1.3 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.7 minutes Luther Head 6-3 PG from Illinois 8.8 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.7 apg in 28.9 minutes Rafer Alston 6-2 PG from Frenso State 12.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 6.8 apg in 38.6 minutes Juwan Howard 6-9 PF from Michigan 11.8 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.7 minutes Incoming Jarrett Jack 6-3 PG from Georgia Tech 6.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 2.8 apg in 20.2 minutes Zach Randolph 6-9 PF from Michigan State 18.0 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 34.4 minutes Change in team outlook: -9.3 ppg, -5.3 rpg, and -6.5 apg. Portland Trade Breakdown Outgoing Darius Miles 6-9 SF from East St. Louis (HS) 14.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 32.2 minutes Steve Blake 6-3 PG from Maryland 8.2 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 4.5 apg in 26.2 minutes Jarrett Jack 6-3 PG from Georgia Tech 6.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 2.8 apg in 20.2 minutes Zach Randolph 6-9 PF from Michigan State 18.0 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 34.4 minutes Incoming Ryan Bowen 6-9 SF from Iowa 1.3 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.7 minutes Luther Head 6-3 PG from Illinois 8.8 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.7 apg in 28.9 minutes Rafer Alston 6-2 PG from Frenso State 12.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 6.8 apg in 38.6 minutes Juwan Howard 6-9 PF from Michigan 11.8 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.7 minutes Jamaal Magloire 6-11 C from Kentucky 9.2 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 30.1 minutes Change in team outlook: -3.7 ppg, +8.2 rpg, and +0.9 apg. Milwaukee Trade Breakdown Outgoing Jamaal Magloire 6-11 C from Kentucky 9.2 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 30.1 minutes Incoming Darius Miles 6-9 SF from East St. Louis (HS) 14.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 32.2 minutes Steve Blake 6-3 PG from Maryland 8.2 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 4.5 apg in 26.2 minutes Change in team outlook: +13.0 ppg, -2.9 rpg, and +5.6 apg. Successful Scenario Due to Houston, Portland, and Milwaukee being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Houston, Portland, and Milwaukee had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Our new line-up Ming/Mutombo/Cato (League Minimum or the TE) Randolph/Hayes Battier/Novak/Bowen (after he gets waived) Mcgrady/Synder/V-span Jack/Sura/JLIII Blazers get rid off all their headcases and bad contracts and begin to rebuild around their young talent and decent veterans. Przybilla/Lafrentz/Skinner Maglorie/Aldrige/Howard Webster/Outlaw Roy/Head/Dixon Alston/Dikau Milwaukee gets more depth with blake and miles Bogut/Gadzuric Villanueva/Smith Simmons/Miles Redd/Greer Williams/Blake Yes our point guard situation looks pathetic but all they will be asked to do is get the ball past half court. From their Mcgrady/Battier can take over because they have the basketball IQ to run the offense. With the lights of Mcgrady Battier Randolph and Ming we wouldn't need an outstanding pg i mean look at the Spurs with avery johnson and its not like rafer was outstanding. Even though there are sooo many players involved i know this trade can be made...what do u all think?
Love it....tell CD Ive signed off on (LOL)...id swap Hayes and Novak, though...6'5 Hayes should be at SF and 6'10 Novak at PF
hey can someone with a little more time on their hands/a little knowledge, let me know the situation with Lorenzen Wright and the possibility of whether we could go after him...what his contract's like ...etc thanks in advance.
Might as well throw in my random trade idea: Golden State Trade Breakdown Outgoing Troy Murphy 6-11 PF from Notre Dame 14.0 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 34.0 minutes Mike Dunleavy 6-9 SF from Duke 11.5 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.9 apg in 31.9 minutes Incoming Juwan Howard 6-9 PF from Michigan 11.8 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.7 minutes Corey Maggette 6-6 SG from Duke 17.8 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 29.6 minutes Change in team outlook: +4.1 ppg, -2.9 rpg, and -0.8 apg. Houston Trade Breakdown Outgoing Juwan Howard 6-9 PF from Michigan 11.8 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.7 minutes Luther Head 6-3 PG from Illinois 8.8 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.7 apg in 28.9 minutes Ryan Bowen 6-9 SF from Iowa 1.3 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.7 minutes Incoming Mike Dunleavy 6-9 SF from Duke 11.5 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.9 apg in 31.9 minutes Chris Duhon 6-1 PG from Duke 8.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 29.1 minutes Change in team outlook: -1.7 ppg, -3.4 rpg, and +3.4 apg. Chicago Trade Breakdown Outgoing P.J. Brown 6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech 9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes Chris Duhon 6-1 PG from Duke 8.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 29.1 minutes Incoming Troy Murphy 6-11 PF from Notre Dame 14.0 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 34.0 minutes Luther Head 6-3 PG from Illinois 8.8 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.7 apg in 28.9 minutes Ryan Bowen 6-9 SF from Iowa 1.3 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.7 minutes Zeljko Rebraca 7-0 C from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign) 4.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 0.3 apg in 14.2 minutes Change in team outlook: +11.1 ppg, +6.5 rpg, and -1.4 apg. L.A. Clippers Trade Breakdown Outgoing Corey Maggette 6-6 SG from Duke 17.8 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 29.6 minutes Zeljko Rebraca 7-0 C from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign) 4.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 0.3 apg in 14.2 minutes Incoming P.J. Brown 6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech 9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes Change in team outlook: -13.5 ppg, -0.2 rpg, and -1.2 apg.
^^^ if we trade howard we need a pf back. In fact the only problem i see with this team is the lack of size at the 4 spot. Id rather have a true starting 4 than Battier and that would free him up to play the 3 spot since he's better suited there. I think we need more of a shooting 4 (better than howard and taller). with that said i'd rather be getting murphy from that deal. i see a lineup of alston Tmac Battier a good pf Yao anyone else imo we can lose in order to get a starting 4
OH boy realgm is addictive. I was looking at bad contracts,malcontent, and salary dumping. I just had to tinker with this craziness. I don't know if its realistic given the insanity between these teams. ROCKETS GIVEUP: JHO,DEKE, and SURA DENVER GIVES UP:KENYON,BOYKINS KNICKS GIVE UP: FRANCIS the craziness results in...... ROCKETS GET: MARTIN DENVER GETS: FRANCIS KNICKS GET:JHO,DEKE, SURA, and EARL GET it while the gettings good.
totally! i think next he should find a way to get us martin AND francis. if there's a better value out there then martin and francis on max contracts then someone slap me.
Not that the Rockets needs another guy with back problems, but what about Scott Pollard if he can be had for cheap? He is one of the most physical players in the league and a decent rebounder. Certainly abetter option as the "Thug" big man than friggin Shawn Kemp's old ass. Coming off a big contract and with his recent attendance record in Indy, though, I don't expect him to get a big offer at age 31. Maybe the 2-2.5 mil left over from the MLE can be used to get him? His skills are more than satisfactory for a big guy off the bench. The only thing is you kind of want your insurance guy to have a more dependable health history.
