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The "Random Rocket Trade Proposals" Thread - 2007 Offseason

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, May 13, 2007.

  1. fnasser

    fnasser Member

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    He played 69 out of 82 games
    OH YEA HE MISSED SUCH A LARGE PART .
    Do your research before talkin smack little man

    and we could trade for him even if we are over the cap. u do know how it works right? if you want i can teach you
     
  2. Hottoddie

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    It won't work because of the difference in salaries.

    However, Powe for JL3 works just fine. :D
     
  3. hooroo

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    http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/bird_qna_070807.html
     
  4. Dei

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    You don't know what 'glut' means do you?

    glut - to flood (the market) with goods so that supply exceeds demand (taken from Merriam-Webster)

    Of course there won't be a glut in the 3 - YOU TRADED SHANE!

    And you suggested only Shane and Sura for O'Neal previously. Editing posts now are we? In any case, if Shane + filler for O'Neal is bad, its only natural that Shane + Luis + filler would be worse.
     
  5. JayZ750

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    you do realize that 13 games in a season is approx 16%? I'll be the first to admit you'd rather have someone only miss 13 games a season than the 30+ Yao missed last year, or Tracy the year prior, but it is actually still a decent amount. If you missed 16% of the year, you'd be missing 58 days. If you only work 5 days a week anyway, and get vacation (say 10 business days; because NBA players also get vacation = offseason), you are only required to work about 250 days a year. if you missed 16% of that, you'd miss an extra 40 days of work...8 weeks!

    But, when you consider JO has only averaged 55 games a year the last 3 years, you have to question long-term health.

    Finally, add-in his contract, his inability as a 6'11 PF to shoot over 50% for the year even once during his career, and the fact that you certainly have to give up good assets to get good assets, then trading for JO, even despite the fact that he would of course be our best PF, is a great rebounder, a good passer and solid shot-blocker, might not be the best move.
     
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    He played a decent amount last year, but he was also playing injured in several games.
     
  7. fnasser

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    averaged 55 a games a year for the last 3 years eh? so what you just log onto a website see three numbers and average them out. youre a great basketball analyst. but then youll have a guy who knows a little more than you remind you that 3 years ago he was suspended for 25 games ( there was this small incident against the pistons. youre not suppose to know about it , it was minor , NOT) so that would have been another season where he played 69 games had he not been suspended. and i dont care about the percentages , playing 69 games out of 82 isnt bad . if mcgrady and yao average 69 games a season for the rest of their careers i think most houston fans would be happy.
    and with respect to playing hurt, you respect people like that. they care about the game.
    and you always see him ready for the playoffs. let the guy miss 13 games . or im sorry like you like to say 16% , as long as hes ready to go come playoff time.
    and again , about the avergae of 55 games a year and not considering his suspension....just blatantly goes to show you how some people read a book and think they know it all.
     
  8. fnasser

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    when have i ever suggested shane and sura for Oneil only? huh? get your head outa your ass
     
  9. ThePrivate

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    At this point, the Rockets are over the luxury tax limit by over 5 million and they still need to sign Mutombo, so expect them to trade (dump) players for draft picks. Expect Rafer, Lucas, Reed, and Sura's contract to be traded for hard no players - just future 2nd round draft picks.
     
  10. Dei

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    You didn't? Oh well, doesn't matter. You're still an idiot :cool: .
     
  11. ReD_1

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    That O'Neil talk is nothing but but dreaming.I doubt Morey ever thought of it and O'Neal personally.We need him but when you look again he isn't so much needed.I would rather focus on trades with JHL3,Alston,Sura and co.
     
  12. BimaThug

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    Sura will be waived. The only teams we could trade him to without taking back players would be teams under the cap; and why would those teams trade for Sura only to cut him and pay him his $1M buyout?
     
  13. Dei

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    I hope not. We could package his salary in a deal where we trade several players for a high calibur one.
     
  14. rterry

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    You can only trade players for draft picks with a team under the salary cap. I don't think there's any of those left and if there are I doubt they are slobbering over alston, sura, etc.
     
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    Which isn't going to happen unless that player is Kobe and only Kobe. Rockets are in salary dump mode.
     
  16. BimaThug

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    That was likely the Rockets' plan BEFORE they added Mike James, Steve Francis and Luis Scola, all without having to give up any of their prime trade assets. Like hooroo said, the Rockets are now looking to get under the luxury tax treshhold so long as it doesn't come at the expense of team success. Right now, waiving Bob Sura is the most obvious and significant move the team can make towards accomplishing that goal.
     
  17. fnasser

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    ok idiot lets hear your suggestion :p
     
  18. QdoubleA

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    why are u such a jerk? were'nt hugged enough as a kid? want a cookie, take ur attitude to realgm ahole
     
  19. fnasser

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    no im alright. if you read the few posts before mine he starts off by calling me an idiot because he didnt like my idea

    you see...i call him idiot because hes stupid

    :)
     
  20. BimaThug

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    Looking back at the 2006 NBA Draft, I recall that Daryl Morey was very high on Thabo Sefalosha and that the Rockets would have taken Sefalosha (instead of Rudy Gay) at #8 if the Battier trade hadn't presented itself.

    So, what are the chances that the Bulls would be willing to part with Sefalosha? He was a real defensive stopper for them late in the year and in the playoffs, so they won't give him away. I don't think the Rockets have anything the Bulls want (other than Scola, and he's not going anywhere). So, I have devised the following three-team trade (yes, it's a "random trade", I know). Okay, so here goes:

    Houston Rockets trade: Rafer Alston, John Lucas
    Charlotte Bobcats trade: Sean May, Othella Harrington
    Chicago Bulls trade: Thabo Sefalosha

    Houston Rockets receive: Thabo Sefalosh, Othella Harrington
    Charlotte Bobcats receive: Rafer Alston, John Lucas
    Chicago Bulls receive: Sean May

    Why Houston does this deal: The Rockets have a glut of point guards, and Morey has already said that he is shopping Lucas. After the Miami deal fell through, the Rockets have been looking for takers for Alston. Sefalosha gives the Rockets a young wing player who can potentially develop into an elite perimeter defender. Sefalosha is much longer and more polished defensively than Snyder, who has one year left on his deal. Sefalosha would be a valuable building block for the Rockets going forward. Bringing back Othella (a fan favorite from back in the day) is just to make salaries match, and he only has one year left on his deal.

    Why Charlotte does this deal: After dumping Brevin Knight last month, the team has been left with only Raymond Felton at the point guard position. Plus, Felton is not much of a long-range shooter and can be careless with the ball. Alston provides a steady hand with the ball and a decent three-point threat. Lucas just gives them depth at the position. May has had injury problems over his two seasons with the Bobcats. It almost seems like Charlotte drafted Jared Dudley to take May's spot in the rotation the next time he (inevitably) gets injured. Othella is a throw in who the team does not need anyway.

    Why Chicago does this deal: The one piece that the Bulls have been lacking has been a low-post presence. While Sean May is not quite a dominant post player, he is better than Tyrus Thomas or Joe Smith down low. They have no offense whatsoever at the PF position (tons of defense, no offense), so May gives them something they lack. Plus, the team already has several good wings (Gordon, Deng, Nocioni, Khryapa, Griffin, Curry), so losing Sefalosha would not be devastating by any stretch of the imagination.

    I know, I know. This trade is unlikely. But I'm sure Morey would jump at the chance to get the guy he was targeting with a mid-lottery pick last year.
     

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