The "Random Rocket Trade Proposals" Thread - 2007 Offseason

Um, Battier shot 42% from the arc last season.....I'd say that is some sharp shooting.

 

Except if they believe this to be the perfect time to trade Camby (sell high) before he gets hit with another injury... Morey's trade for James and signing of Francis were "buy low" and low risk moves, as both players were coming off bad seasons, so I'm confident he'll be smart in not offering too much for Camby, if he becomes available.

 

Yahoo.com -
The Pistons retained a key member of their bench Monday, signing forward Antonio McDyess to a contract extension.

Financial terms were not disclosed for McDyess, who was entering the final year of his contract. He was set to make $6.3 million in 2007-08.
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I know I seen a ton of McDyess scenerios in here...just wanted to squash the speculation.

 

Here we go again. There is no option with Camby regarding how much to pay him. He is under contract for the next three seasons. Plus, we should give up our left foot to get him if he does become available, short of trading any key players.

 

He isn't a consistent shooter. There are a lot of nights where he will go 2-7 or 3-10 and then go 4-5. I do expect him to improve this year with more scorers demanding attention.

 

Camby is 33, has a history of injuries, and will be 36 once his contract is up. He is owed about 24 mio. over the next three years. I say we should definitely give it a try, as I think he could be the missing piece for us. Denver might as well go all small - they won't contend either way, but then they could try to be the GS of the 2008 playoffs.

 

uhm thats how it goes for pretty much every shooter in the league. no one shoots above 40% everytime they step on the court.

 

I haven't seen anything that would indicate we are looking at Camby or have a shot to get him but I agree that he would be well worth the risk despite his age and injury risks. He would thoroughly fit Adelman's style of play.

 

Wow, that was as inaccurate a statement as I have seen since I have joined this forum. 42% from behind the arc reflects incredible consistency, especially for a forward. Plus, his percentage over the entire season and his career have more value than any indivdual game. What outside shooter in the history of professional basketball, including overseas, has not had nights where they shoot 2-7 or 3-10? It is absurd that you could even respond with this statement after the previous guy referenced Battier's excellent 3pt shooting percentage for the season. In fact, that was Battier's best season from behind the arc as a pro. To put Battier's great outside shooting consistency in perspective, his career 3pt FG% is .392 compared to Stojakovic's .399. Oh yes, my friend, Battier is a consistent shooter, especially from behind the arc where he now shoots the majority of his shots. Battier may not be able to shoot off the dribble, or over defenders like McGrady and Kobe, but one thing is for sure and that is that Battier is truly a consistent outside shooter when compared to the rest of the league. He is actually one of the best in terms of consistency.

 

Hey Saleem, between any of those 3,902 posts, have you considered taken some time to actually watch the Rockets play, or any team for that matter?

 

Plenty.Just have a difference of opinion as far as Battier's shooting,that's all. No offense intended.

 

L.A. Clippers Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Cuttino Mobley
6-4 SG from Rhode Island
13.8 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.5 apg in 36.4 minutes
Incoming
Luther Head
6-3 PG from Illinois
10.9 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 2.4 apg in 27.6 minutes
Bob Sura
6-5 from Florida State
No games yet played in 2006/07
Rafer Alston
6-2 PG from Frenso State
13.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 5.4 apg in 37.0 minutes
Change in team outlook: +10.4 ppg, +3.1 rpg, and +5.3 apg.


Houston Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Luther Head
6-3 PG from Illinois
10.9 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 2.4 apg in 27.6 minutes
Bob Sura
6-5 from Florida State
No games yet played in 2006/07
Rafer Alston
6-2 PG from Frenso State
13.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 5.4 apg in 37.0 minutes
Incoming
Cuttino Mobley
6-4 SG from Rhode Island
13.8 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.5 apg in 36.4 minutes
Change in team outlook: -10.4 ppg, -3.1 rpg, and -5.3 apg.

trade accepted

Ming/Butler/Mutombo
Scola/Hayes/Reed
TMAC/Battier/Novak
Mobley/Wells/Synder
James/Francis/Brooks

Mobley is a good defender who can drain the tree ball
and with Francis wells and battier coming off the bench our bench will be the best in the league
I think it is very important to have a SG and PG who can shoot the 3 and with mobley and james in the back court we have to pesky guards that can stroke it...

 

"Offering" meant trade assets... what do you mean by "left foot"? Which assets are these, if they don't include key players?

 

First post but with the rumors of Haslem or Foster I put this trade together trying to fit all 3 teams needs. We would probably get a 1st rounder out of Miami also. Fits all 3 teams needs and we may get a bit better with addition by subtraction??

This Trade Succeeded! Go back to adjust your trade or start over.
Indiana Pacers

Incoming Players
Luther Head
Salary: $1,122,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 10.9 REB: 3.2 AST: 2.4 PER: 13.73

Udonis Haslem
Salary: $6,050,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 10.7 REB: 8.3 AST: 1.2 PER: 13.69


Outgoing Players: Jeff Foster, Shawne WilliamsMiami Heat

Incoming Players
Kirk Snyder
Salary: $2,358,433 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 4.9 REB: 2.1 AST: 1.0 PER: 12.16

Rafer Alston
Salary: $4,550,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 13.3 REB: 3.4 AST: 5.4 PER: 12.99

Shawne Williams
Salary: $1,470,360 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 3.9 REB: 1.8 AST: 0.5 PER: 9.75


Outgoing Players: Dorell Wright, Udonis HaslemHouston Rockets

Incoming Players
Dorell Wright
Salary: $2,040,746 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 6.0 REB: 4.1 AST: 1.4 PER: 12.69

Jeff Foster
Salary: $5,500,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.3 REB: 8.1 AST: 0.8 PER: 13.07


Outgoing Players: Kirk Snyder, Rafer Alston, Luther Head

 

brooks you sure do love to argue with people...in your 190 posts have you taking the team to notice what u say = )

 

And you stick by that opinion even when considering that Battier has the same career 3pt FG% as one of the greatest shooters in today's game, Peja Stojakovic. Stojakovic has had countless games where he has shot poorly, too. What is your basis for saying that Battier is not a consistent shooter when all his statistics tell a different story? In this case, there is no legitimate way to question the statistics because they reflect how consistently/efficiently a player can make shots. You are calling one of the best 3pt shooters in the NBA an inconsistent shooter because he went 2-7 or 3-9 on a few nights (you were no doubt referring to 3-pointers with those numbers). If Batter is not consistent and if Peja is not consistent then who is?? How do you define consistency? There are statistics that show Battier is a consistent shooter. What is your support for him not being consistent? I am sure you know see that the fact that he went 3-9 one night is not a very strong argument.

I guess the next statement you are going to make is that Steve Nash is not a consistent passer because of a couple of games where he only had 3 or 4 assists. And, Mutombo is not a consistent blocker because of a few games where he only had 1 blocked shot.

 

This time I misinterpreted your first comment. I now understand your opinion that Morey would be wise not to offer to much in a trade scenario. However, l would be very aggressive in the pursuit of an available Marcus Camby. By "left foot", I meant offer various trade options to Denver and be willing to give up some real goods (e.g. a 1st round draft pick to accompany players involved in the trade, anybody not named McGrady or Yao, etc...). I really like Camby's game and would be thrilled to have him in a Rockets uniform. I am aware that many would disagree with my stance on Camby. However, I feel that he still has at least a few good years left in him and could join Yao to give us a deadly frontcourt for the next several years. I feel that he is worth the injury risks. Camby would bring us a top-tier rebounder and shot-blocker and most every tool that we need next to Yao in one single package. He can play 15 feet from the basket and has very good passing skills for a big man. He would thrive in Adelman's offensive system and give us a dominant interior presence on the defensive end of the court.

 

Yes...

 

My guess for how the Rockets round out the roster:

--Trade Rafer Alston and Justin Reed for Udonis Haslem in mid-August (once Reed can be re-traded)
--Trade JLIII for a 2nd round pick
--Re-sign Chuck Hayes to an affordable multi-year deal
--Sign Carl Landry (have to sign such a high pick)
--Waive Bob Sura (for luxury tax relief)
--Don't re-sign Deke (love him, but he doesn't fit this system)
--Cut Harris at the end of training camp (victim of numbers game)

Resulting Roster:

Francis / James / Brooks
McGrady / Head / Snyder
Battier / Wells / Novak
Haslem / Scola / Hayes / Landry
Yao / Butler

This should be a nice final roster for Rick Adelman. He's got options at every position. Plus, either Haslem or Scola (or even Hayes) can play some backup center minutes if Butler proves ineffective.

I'm looking forward to the season.

 

His stats are good,but I feel that they don't tell the whole story.When he got the ball for a 3 pointer last season,there were times he went really cold even though the team needed him to knock them down. There have been quite a few nights when he has ended up with just 4 or 6 points. Battier is a smart player,he does a lot of things for the team on defense in particular and some nights his outside shooting has been very good, but when his shot wasn't falling last year,we really struggled on offense because of a lack of a 3rd scorer.