The "Random Rocket Trade Proposals" Thread - 2007 Offseason

just some feedback ... although not expert:

I doubt Howard or JL3 would be what NY is looking for, and nothing has been in the press to indicate that. Howard could go to someone closer to his home, such as MIN, CHI, DET or MIL. Obviously, there is already momentum around a Mike James swap. The player NY MIGHT be interested in is Alston. He's a playground legend there, and as long as he was comfortable behind Starbury, he'd be great PR for them, and local favorite. They might cut Channing Frye and someone else loose for him ... but, not Lee ...

Head is not enough for Lee. From what Thomas says in the press, and how well he has played, there's no way Thomas would trade him for another SG. They just need to get one of their 2 SGs healthy. It would take a lot, probably more than Head and our #26 to get that one done. Thomas just believes he's one star away from being a contender. I think that's what he'll group his talent to get, and Head is not that. We might be able to get someone like Armstrong or Simmons from NO for Head, since they are looking for a SG, but not Lee, IMHO.

I agree that the Bobcats need a marquis player, but I don't think that's Battier. And, IMHO, Battier is a better fit for this team than Gerald Wallace.

As far as the MLE, I'd rather it go to Steve Francis or Amir Johnson. Ilyosava could be due, like you say, but I think Johnson has a higher upside. This is just opinion, of course.

I agree about hoping that Crittendon or Fernandez drop to us, but I doubt it. We'll probably end up with Almond, who could be valuable in a couple years, or trade our pick, Sura's exemption, Battier and someone else as a package for a major piece, such as Lewis, Bibby, Wilcox, Oneal, etc.

... good creative thinking ... but, I'm not sure realistic.

 

here's my stab at piecing together most of the trade rumors around the rockets right now.

- rockets ask about artest and the KINGS name the price of billy, snyder, sura, and #26. the rockets do this deal on draft night!

1. billy, snyder, sura, #26 ----> artest

- with tmac, ron, bonzi, and luther, there is no need to keep shane. the rockets shop him for a PF or a PG. the best deal available is probably chris wilcox (unless you love travis outlaw). wilcox is a BYC player, and using espn's trade machine to find a trade that worked only turned up one possibility that was close to fair.

this one won't be a fan favorite at all, but believe me, there is no other trade that worked with the sonics. the early second round picks are valuable. they are not guaranteed deals and players usually fall out of the frist round. we can catch some real steals here to compensate for overpaying.

2. shane, luther, lucas, novak -----> wilcox, wilkins, gelabale, #31, #35.

- with most of our guards gone in the first two deals it's time to balance the roster and reload on some shooters.

3. juwon howard ----> mike james

- now it's time to fill up the roster with some signings.

A. hayes
B. deke
C. LLE on a shooter like matt carroll
D. undrafted rookie

yao-deke-#31
wilcox-hayes-undrafted rookie
ron-bonz-gelabale
tmac-wilkins-carroll
james-rafer-#35

fast, versitile, athletic, and multiple scoring threats. weak on shooters, but definitely an upgrade on talent.

 

not a bad attempt. But you're very much undervaluing Carroll. No way he comes for the LLE.

Isn't Travis Outlaw more of a 3? Just what I thought.. you mentioned him as a choice at the 4.


But overall, why do they want Shane? They only really have Collison up front...and assuming they get Durant, the 3 is already covered. I know this has been a rumor...but you hafta think it has some conditions to it

 

I agree with smoothie in 100%. I love that lineup too. Ron, Wilcox and Mike would really help Tracy and Yao. Even if we don't get Carrol I'll be still happy. But could that happen? I hope so...

 

How about the Rockets trade Tracy McGrady, #26 pick, and future 2nd round pick to the Spurs for Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, #28 pick, and the #33 pick? Rockets get two good players in their primes and two picks in this year's deep draft for our pick and best player.

 

why would spurs do this? tony park isn't even in his prime yet, and they have a good thing going. why break it apart? if the spurs do offer that, i would accept that trade in a heart beat.

 

Yeah, the idea behind it is purely as a salary dump to entice them into giving up Lee. Q-Rich has the second worst contract on the Knicks considering he's never had a healthy season for them, each year has been either bad leg or bad back that requires surgery.

Head's selling point is he was the 4th best 3P shooter in the league this season. Kapono, Nash and Barry in that order are ahead of him. They could go just go after Kapono but avg had 2 3P shots less per game than Head and just is lesser player all round.

The whole point of this suggestion was to swap the 26th pick for the 22nd in order to have a better chance at getting one of the draft candidates I'd listed.

 

Battier & JL111 for Mo Peterson +TJ Ford /Josh Cauldrine 1 st pick
Raptors have both ford and Cauldrine. there is not enough minutes for both them. in return they get a great role player to help there young squad mature more rapidly. we get a starting PG and a very good scoring SF and a VERY solid defensive player.

 

Thats if we cant get Artest or lewis..

 

WOW that one really seems to favor the rockets.

or am i reading that wrong???

 

I love Shane, but there is no way he's worth that much. I'd consider a Calderon for Battier deal, which the Raptors might take a look at.

 

No you're absolutely right. Colangelo would have to be brain dead to make that move.

 

What about that pointguard on the Spanish team in the World Championships.... I think his last name was navarro.... he performed very well in the WC in terms of shooting from outside and dishing to his teammates... what are the prospects of acquiring this player? Judging from Jose Calderon's performance with the Raptors I think Navarro could deliver for us also.

 

this is one of those trades where it doesn't make sense for both teams

 

1) Trade Juwan Howard for Mike James.

2) Trade Kirk Snyder, Vassilis Spanoulis, Bob Sura's Expiring Contract, & The 2007 Draft Pick (26th) for Ron Artest.

2007-08 Starting Line-Up
1) Mike James (12 PPG)
2) Tracy McGrady (25 PPG)
3) Shane Battier (10 PPG)
4) Ron Artest (15 PPG)
5) Yao Ming (22 PPG)

 

What about that point guard from the Greek team in the world championships...he performed real well in the championship game...I think his name was Spanoullis...

Let's see how that turns out before we go out and get more european players who take time to develop in the NBA!

 

The Wizards have Navarro's rights.

 

i havent seen his name mentioned, but i think rasheed would fit in pretty well with the rockets. He´s clearly crazy, but that means is value isn´t that high right now for a player of his ability. Moneyball is all about picking up proven talent albeit flawed that can be gotten on the cheap, so I wouldn´t be surprised if morey went after him if artest falls through. He is a very good post defender who plays duncan as well as just about anybody. He´s quick enough to cover dirk reasonably, and would thrive with the open 3s generated by tmac and yao. He is 32, and he is due around 10 mil a year a believe for the next 2 or 3 seasons, but the rockets could probably put together a package of jho, one of our young guards, and a pick for him. Pistons would be willing to send him off because they have Johnson and Maxiell waiting in the wings. Anyway, I think he provides stout defense against the strongest position in the West today (PFs) while not being a nonfactor on offense like Chuck. He also has been known to make some nifty passes in the post. I think he addresses a major need of ours and is probably obtainable on the cheap. I say bring on the sheed.

 

I would trade Tracy McGrady for Rashard Lewis and #2 pick...

 

The Sonics have no need for Tracy Mcgrady if they sign Kevin Durant even if Rashard Lewis leaves them.What they need is a big man in their front court IMO.