The "Random Rocket Trade Proposals" Thread - 2007 Offseason

Fur fun here is the trade break down...they both work...as I said, not sure about Artest but Carter makes sense for both sides...
Houston Trade Breakdown

Outgoing
Juwan Howard
6-9 PF from Michigan
9.7 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.6 apg in 26.6 minutes
Shane Battier
6-8 SF from Duke
10.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.1 apg in 36.5 minutes
Bob Sura
6-5 from Florida State
No games yet played in 2006/07
Bonzi Wells
6-5 SG from Ball State
7.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21.2 minutes
Kirk Snyder
6-6 SG from Nevada-Reno
4.9 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.0 apg in 14.4 minutes
Luther Head
6-3 PG from Illinois
10.9 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 2.4 apg in 27.6 minutes
Incoming
Vince Carter
6-6 SG from North Carolina
25.2 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
18.8 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 3.4 apg in 37.7 minutes
Change in team outlook: +0.6 ppg, -7.0 rpg, and -0.0 apg.


New Jersey Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Vince Carter
6-6 SG from North Carolina
25.2 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes
Incoming
Juwan Howard
6-9 PF from Michigan
9.7 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.6 apg in 26.6 minutes
Shane Battier
6-8 SF from Duke
10.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.1 apg in 36.5 minutes
Bonzi Wells
6-5 SG from Ball State
7.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21.2 minutes
Change in team outlook: +2.4 ppg, +8.3 rpg, and 0.0 apg.


Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
18.8 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 3.4 apg in 37.7 minutes
Incoming
Bob Sura
6-5 from Florida State
No games yet played in 2006/07
Kirk Snyder
6-6 SG from Nevada-Reno
4.9 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.0 apg in 14.4 minutes
Luther Head
6-3 PG from Illinois
10.9 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 2.4 apg in 27.6 minutes
Change in team outlook: -3.0 ppg, -1.3 rpg, and 0.0 apg.



Successful Scenario
Due to Houston, New Jersey, and Sacramento being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Houston, New Jersey, and Sacramento had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

 

Dude, I don 't care what you think ... just explain to me why the trade proposals of Vivid (I 'm not being unrespectful to you, dude) are not categorized as 'crazy'? Trading Vince Carter to Houston ... THE Vince Carter? What 's the different? NJ still have two All-Stars (Kid & Jefferson) left and Atlanta won 't have anything anymore?

 

Vivid's trade proposal classifys as a fantasy trade in every sense of the word...
it's unlikely to happen, but the two players he suggested are on the block, so it is probable that the teams in question would listen to a Houston offer. Also, he offered players that would be valuable to the other team.

S&T Vince to us for Battier and Howard is unlikely, but Battier has alot of value on the open market, and I assure you New Jersey would be happy to have him, especially if the alternative is nothing in return. Howard is simply a filler to make the numbers work...
Artest is a hot rumor, and Head, Snyder and Sura's expiring are certainly competitive with the other trades out there on the table right now (i.e. Brown or Martin). So it is not out of the realm of possibility they would accept this.
So...in summation you can tell Vivid took the time to think of trades that might make sense for both teams, and as fantastic at the propsals are, they are fathomable...

Now to your trade....

NOWHERE has there even been a hint of Johnson being on the market. As I stated before he is their cornerstone, and the building block for that team. To get him you would likewise have to trade a marquee player. The only two on our team are Yao and McGrady...neither of which you even mentioned...

What you did mention were 3 of our rotation players...and a couple scrubs as well. why in the hell would any team trade their franchise player for 3 players that would not even be in their starting line-up? Tell me...do you even know if the salaries match-up?

Trade proposals such as the one you suggested are irritating to say the least. There is zero probability that they would ever even consider such a thing...and the reason you should listen to what I have to say my friend is that maybe in the future you won't embarass yourself by making such a r****ded suggestion.

 

how about....

Mike James
Ricky Davis
Mark Madsen

for

Juwon
Luther
Rafer

Davis would give us another scoring option and someone who can actually create his own shot....at the deadline they talked about a howard/james swap...im sure minny wouldnt mind getting rid of james and also surrounding garnett with more young talent (luther) i dont know why they would give davis but they have a glut of guards...so who knows and madsen would be the throw in for some size/energy..oh and the salaries match

of course that wouldnt be the only move of the offseason..i like the trade though...

 

Madsen is Ryan Bowen...no thanks

 

How about trading up in the draft to get Glen Davis (big baby)? He could play the pf position and add some atheleticism to the rockets.If you consider swapping first rounders with someone after the lottery and a future draft pick 2nd round of this year or next plus juwon,rafer,or even bonzi it wouldn't be a big risk. I would do the same for a.c. law a true pg who can hit big shots when you need them.

 

Glen Davis should be available when the Rockets draft, most mocks I have seen have him going late 1st to mid 2nd round. As for as Acie Law goes, good luck, I think alot of teams will be eager to get him. It would take a possible move of Luther Head to make that happen.

 

Another Trade Involving Rafer

Another Trade Involving Rafer

Stan Van Gundy loved the play of Rafer when he was playing for him. Think the Heat organization would do a Alston for Jason Williams trade? I think that's probably one of the most fair trades you can probably do for him. Williams will be a great playmaker than can come in here and make a difference. Also, he's played for Rick Adelman, just in case he is our next coach
Anyway, what do you guys think?

 

I'd rather not trade Rafer.

I just want to get someone who can play in front of him.

 

Most drafts have him going mid 2nd round so I'm in no rush to pick him at 26th overall. I'll go with Morris Almond and hopefully trade someone a future 2nd rounder for Davis if we really fall in love with chubby baby . Someone call Bonzi and tell him he's got competition at the team's buffet table.

 

as long as we are dreaming here... somebody work out some crazy deal to get Baron Davis.

any chance that the warriors would give up Davis for Tmac? of course I'd want 1 more of their starters as filler.

 

I agree. If anyone didn't show up it was Yao. He got manhandled by the Jazz! He needs to get stronger, and the Rockets need scorers. Trading Tmac is a horrible idea unless you are going to get significantly better talent... no one on the Clippers qualifies, not even Brand. Even collectively they probably don't qualify IMHO. The Rockets only have assets to perform minor and probably insignificant trades, which means our bench will probably suck once again next year. The only hopes for significant improvement are through the draft (this years draft may be deep enough to produce a contributor even with our low draft position), free agency (catching a veteran on the cheap or a young diamond in the rough), or blowing the team up as some have suggested (bad idea).
Trading Luther, Span, Hayes, or Novak might get some takers, but you're not gonna get much in return. Aside from that, we have nothing to offer.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is, barring a miracle, next years team is going to look alot like this years. The biggest change will be in attitude and style via a new head coach. A few different bounces of the ball and this years team probably would be headed to the WCF, so maybe the small tweaks will be enough.

 

I agree with most of what you said, but I believe that T-Mac for Brand, Cassell, and Cat is worthwhile. Not gonna happen but worthwhile.

 

Shane Battier for Tayshaun Prince!!!

 

be honest

we are keeping battier, mcgrady and yao
and most likely luther head

alston+bonzi for j.kidd

and

novak+j.howard+ big jake for corey maggette

 

Not an idea i'm crazy about but a realistic idea still....

Howard for Vlad Radmanovic

Radman is bigger, younger, more athletic and a better shooter. In theory, he's exactly what we need at PF. Of course, he has his flaws in that he's a horrible defender and has underchieved in the league thus far. His understanding of the game also seems to be an area of weakness but I still think he could be a useful bench player.

He's on a longterm but tolerable deal and had such a horrible first season in LA that we might even be able to pry away a second rounder or a player like Vujucic or Turiaf in the deal as well. Remember, there were several media reports indicating that LA had interest in Howard.

Another point I would like to add: If Adelman is indeed our next coach, I think it's noteworthy to point out that he's had great success coaching players of Radman's mold given Peja and Turkoglu's success under his coaching.

 

If Antonio McDyess decides to leave Detroit, perhaps a straight up swap (S&T) for Rafer? Maybe throw in Jake too.

Detroit gets a back-up PG for Chauncey (assuming he sticks with the team) we get a PF?

It still leaves the MLE to chase a PG.

 

Good thing your new cause all of your trade proposals are ridiculous and would never ever happen. You acttualy have to give up GOOD players to get GOOD players.

 

Bonzi
Kirk
Novak/TSak
Howard

for...

Nocioni
Duhon

 

That is the question I am posing. Artest fills the stats board but he is a problem child. I doubt the Kings will get an even swap. They will have to take lesser value or someone who past their prime.

Would they give up a draft pick? I'm not sure, but I would certainly start the negotations there.

Oh and I didn't include Howard in that trade idea. The only way he is gone is as a package with T-mac.