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The Problem with Harden

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sengoat28, Jun 13, 2023.

  1. CHAMPBOY

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    I think players like Sengun and Green is going to have a great 3rd year in the NBA. Green is scoring 25+ points a game and shooting efficiency and Sengun averaging 20 points and 10 rebounds a game. Rockets two weaknesses are a veteran point guard and interior defender. Harden would help Green with shot selection and Jabari of getting the ball for better shot selection.
     
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  2. SamFisher

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    "All employees are required to watch the tutorial prior to beginning the Annual Evaluation Process - it is highly recommended to use the Step-by-Step Editor. Comments unrelated to the relevant section should not be entered, there is a general comments section at the conclusion of the Evaluation Form
     
  3. Asian Sensation

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    Delusional Sammie girl talking out of her ass again. Milk Hair for all his faults led the Rockets to their 3rd best record in franchise history in 2015. His absolute genius decision to bench your worthless bum sac of a hero in the 4th quarter led to a WCF appearance.

    James Harden was MVP runner up that year and rockets won 56 games. Harden with MDA also had 1 total WCF appearance with the help of one of the most prolific PG’s in NBA history. WTF exactly do you mean when you say:

    “Clearly he couldn't unlock Harden the way other coaches could” ?

    Did JB Bickerstaff, Silas, Nash or Doc Rivers unlock him or did I miss something? Seems more like Harden couldn’t/can’t unlock himself from choking when it mattered most no matter who was/is coaching him.

    In case you forgot cause it seems like you have. Notice you won’t see any bearded bum loser giving zero effort on defense, missing shots or being passive and turning the ball over in the clutch.

     
  4. Os Trigonum

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  5. Kevooooo

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    Genuinely have no idea what you’re trying to say here.
     
  6. coachbadlee

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    The problem is James is just too Hardheaded to listen to anything. Any team that features him at PG is doomed to repeat the same disappointments over and over and over and over again. He is a glorified loser.
     
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    Oh, you the head of HR now Samantha?
     
  8. theDude

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    So, what did Doc say?
     
  9. TimDuncanDonaut

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    '"Harden is a good player. But he's predicable to game plan against in playoff settings, since lack of movement."


    That's it.

    Nothing about Harden not listening to coaches or leadership stuff.

    Instead of turning this into another generic Harden thread, which there's a long one in the Dish, just focus on the main OP post.
     
  10. J.R.

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    https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/new...en-in-playoffs-embiid-sixers-culture/3585040/

    “It was challenging,” Rivers said of his experience coaching Harden. “James is so good at playing one way, and the way that I believe you have to play to win is, in some ways, different — because it’s a lot of giving up the ball, moving the ball, coming back to the ball. I would’ve loved to have him younger, when that was easier for him, because giving up the ball and getting the ball back is hard. It’s physical, it’s exhausting. So it would’ve been interesting if I’d had him younger, where he could’ve done that more — coming off of dribble handoffs, going downhill. He didn’t finish as well as he finished (in past years) because he’s older, and that happens.

    “So yeah, at times to get him to move it and play the way I needed him to play … I thought the first half of the year, we were the best team in the game. I thought James was playing perfect basketball. He was the point guard of the team and he was scoring, but he was doing more playmaking. … And then the second half, he started trying to score more, and I thought we got stagnant at times. I thought we changed.”

    “I don’t think anything’s missing (in the playoffs). I think what makes James great is that he’s one of the best individual players to ever play the game,” Rivers said. “Ball handling … dribbles the ball, attacks. But that also allows (the defense) to attack; you know where he’s at and you know where the ball is at. And so in the playoffs, when teams are game planning against you each game — double teaming, taking the ball out of your hands, making it harder — it’s easier to do that to James compared to … how do you take Steph (Curry) out of a game? He’s running around, he’s moving; it’s hard.

    “It’s funny, we beat Golden State (in the 2014 playoffs), and (Warriors head coach) Steve Kerr used how we trapped him in Games 6 and 7. … He used that and showed Steph, ‘Hey, it’s too easy in big games down the stretch to stop you, because they know where the ball is at.’ You remember in Chicago, (Bulls coach) Doug Collins used to let Michael (Jordan) bring the ball up the floor. And then they got in the playoffs, and you knew where Michael was at, so you attacked. Then Phil comes in and the triangle was moving. Now, at the end of the game, Phil Jackson still went to pick-and-roll with Michael Jordan.

    “Having said that, it was the movement and the inability to find where you could trap him that made it so hard. And I think that’s James’ kryptonite right now. But I don’t believe the whole thing that he quits and all that stuff. I just think teams make him struggle because they know where he’s at and it’s easier to find him.”
     
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    Unclutch coach paired with unclutch player- tune in next week to see how it all unfolds.
     
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    Thanks for that.

    It's funny that he mentions Harden can't do as much running around without the ball because he's old. Then mentions Steph doing it, and he's older than Harden.
     

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