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The Presidents of Harvard, MIT, Penn, Columbia should be forced to resign

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Dec 5, 2023.

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    Time to call BS.

    Does anlyone recall Rep. Elise Stefanik’s passionate statement of outrage when
    • a gunman massacred worshippers at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh?
    • White supremists chanting the “Jews will not replace us” marchers at Charlottesville?
    • then-POTUS Trump rationizing, after the Charottesville protest, that there are good Nazis
    she and her colleagues were silent during these anti-semitic attacks/protests.
    to say that Stefanik and her colleagues are disingenuous would be putting it mildly!

    They claim to hve notable interest in, respect for, and appreciation of the Jewish people only when it serves their purposes.

    They defend Jews as a way of bashing universities​
     
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    Things coming to a head.

     
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    It is a bunch of appeasement and double talk on this issue.

    The Harvard representative has to do better - she represents the finest higher learning school in the world.... and she failed to properly respond to being set up..... it isn't hard.

    "Is a call for Jewish genocide a violation of the campus anti-harassment rule?"

    "Yes - a student that openly calls for the genocide of Jews has violated the anti-harassment policy of Harvard."

    "Yet you had protests on campus that called for that very thing?"

    "Are you talking about the pro-Palestinian protests on campus that were protesting what they view as an apartheid situation in the occupied territory?"

    "No - I am talking about the protests that were calling for the genocide of the Jews?"

    "I am not aware of those. I am aware of pro-Palestinian protests on campus. Individuals that attend Harvard and can be identified, and we can prove were openly calling for the genocide of the Jewish people will face proper punishment after due process. However - I will caution you, that those that are exercising their support of Palestine and not explicitly calling for genocide, are not necessarily afoul of the school policy and procedures as Harvard."


    Instead she just refused to answer the question because she did not believe the protests were anti-semitic, this is debate 101.
     
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    They did not need to just give a one word answer.

    It was a loaded question - like the classic "When did you stop beating your wife" ....... any response other than a date and time isn't responsive to the question.

    There were other ways to properly answer a loaded question and to differentiate between supporting genocide and participating in a pro-Palestinian protest.... but they all just jumped the shark, afraid to be boxed in on the question.
     
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    You and I could have given a more sincere and better answer.

    Not that hard.
     
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    I suspect they clammed up to the shrill Trumper while thinking of some hidden trap or gotcha Elise and others would spring onto them. The video in this article has other congressmen other than Maga Karen grilling/interrogating the presidents and their preferential bias for enforcing language.

    That could explain the smug smile from Penn's McGill. I'd probably have a similar attitude from a do-nothing MAGA insurrectionist congressman, but I don't get paid the big bucks being the face of multi-billion dollar endowments.

    I didn't know "Global Intifada" would be shorthand for genocide before this and other similar post-Oct7 discussion arose.

    Colleges have had orientation classes where potentially harmful or hurtful language is focused and thoroughly explained, so the fact that they didn't plan or anticipate orchestrating something similar for the ME conflict reflects bias or negligent laziness.
     
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    Harvard in particular has to have a higher standard -- part of its mission is to develop leaders who make a difference. The failure Claudine Gay over the past couple of months (culminating in the Congressional hearing) is one of leadership more than anything else.

    Fareed Zakaria had a good piece today about how universities need to re-focus on their core purposes of research and learning -- it's a good point.
     
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