Let's just all agree that Jews are good people just like Christians or Muslims or anyone else for that matter. We can all agree on that, right? Religions themselves don't make people bad, people do. Religion just helps sometimes. =) Seriously, saying that Jews killed Jesus is asenine because that's just as accurate as saying whites hate black people because they were the ones who inslaved them for hundreds of years. I know I didn't inslave anyone just like no one alive today who's Jewish killed Jesus. Why are we trying to peg people for something that happened 2 thousand years ago? What's the point of the debate?
Well,The guy who played Jesus got, -Struck by lightning on the set, lived. -Phenomena -Dislocated his shoulders while carrying the cross during a scene -When filming the whipping scenes, the whip actually hit him once causing a 14 inch long gash, then once they stiched it up, the whip hit him in the same spot again making it worse obviously -Had to sit up on the cross for 4 months in cold, windy weather during the shoot. After stating all of this it was funny for him to mention how he got the part. Mel's people contacted him telling him about a movie of surfing. The first question in his meeting with them was "Anyone ever tell you that you like Jesus?"
Even If some people take this as being Anti-Sematic, I know that It was God's Plan for Jesus to die for our sins and If Jesus had not died then we would all still be living in sin and not go to heaven, I saw the movie last night, the only people who are going to go out and be anti-sematic are the ones who are already Anti-Sematic, Please Just go see the movie and take it for what it is worth to you (Which i may remind all of yall that it is worth something different for every different person)
was watching the news last night, Ch 13 i think, and they were interviewing moviegoers who had just seen the movie. There was an older black woman who was crying and she either said "Thank you Jesus" or "They killed Jesus". Anyone catch a better listen of that? yeah but was the voice dubbed over by a man and did she seem androgynous as was reported or was she obviously female like Liz Hurley in Bedazzled?
I guess we're going to have three threads about the movie in D&D. Nomar, you need to back away from the keyboard. Think about the contempt in which replicants were held in Blade Runner. They were called "skin jobs", remember? The NEXUS-6 were seen as different, difficult and dangerous, so the Tyrell Corporation solved that problem... a short life-span. Four years. Now, think about being a human who's part of a tribe of people seen as "different, difficult and dangerous" for hundreds and hundreds of years. Now ponder that they were given the same treatment time and time again. A short life span, if they could be caught. Can you relate to any of that? My apologies to anyone who hasn't seen the Ridley Scott movie. And Jews were never any more "difficult, different and dangerous" than anyone else.
Like some religious people, certainly. But if you want to look for intelligent discussions, you can find that as well. However, I wouldn't be surprised if you denied that in your response to this post, confirming my first remark.
Add another to the list of the misinformed. My post was aimed against the racial double standard. Get it right.
Man...what a disappointing thread. I would like to point out one thing, and you can disregard it or do with it what you will. In the Gospels...particularly in the Gospel of John. There is a lot of mention of "the Jews." It is clear that the reference is directed towards the temple leaders. Jesus heals a Jewish man at pool on the Sabbath...and "the Jews" come and ask the man who did it...and then confront Jesus. I guess the analogy would be like saying "the Americans have attacked Iraq." Clearly there was division in this country over that...and Americans, in that context, means the leadership/military. I think that's clearly the context for scripture where you read that "the Jews drove them out of town." Now I'm not saying the leaders didn't raise up crowds of Jewish folks against the early church....but the connotation keeps going back to a group called "the Jews" that is clearly distinct from the average Jew that Jesus and early apostles encountered in these accounts.
The problem is that it is a big issue to the Christians over history who have persecuted Jews and to the Jews who have been persecuted for "killing Christ."
The Satan character was androgynous. I didn't know she was female until the end credits. I assumed it was a fair-featured man with movie makeup. It didn't make me think of the character's sexuality though. It was a good effect, honestly: Satan had a lithe, sensuous look that was still masculine (in a pretty-boy sort of way). Attractive, yet still menacing. Snake-like. But, transgender or homosexual did not remotely occur to me until you mentioned it. Here's a picture of her as Satan: http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0335345/Ss/0335345/1202.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0335345
Not to get off topic... But I'm planning to go to the 9pm show at AMC Studio 30. Did anyone have problems regarding the movie being sold out? It's currently 7:20 and I've been told that all of the evening shows before 10pm are probably sold out. Of course, I can't call them and find out. Thanks in advance.
