He basically is setting himself up for 2012 to run as the "real conservative" candidate. He labeled Washington as liberal after 8 years of GWB and 7 of Republicans in congress and called the Roberts Supreme Court very liberal. Mind blowing. It was also the way he delivered it - almost frothing. It was old school far-right stuff and really had nothing to do with GWB's legacy, McCain's future, or anything anybody else talked about tonight. Just that we need to defeat liberalism which, apparently, is everywhere.
My thoughts as well. She made abortion a primary issue in a small town election and changed her talking points to corruption when she ran for governor against other candidates who had the same views on abortion.
Did anybody catch that part in her speech where she said: Were the Republicans yesterday not trying to pimp the fact they reach positively across bipartisan lines?
Except that it's not Obama's best/most valuable experience by any means, and it makes your argument look weak by saying so. And you want to talk elitism? Obama graduated top of his class at Columbia, and instead of immediately going to law school or chasing big bucks, he worked for a charity in a poor community and established programs to help people get out of poverty. Palin mocked Obama's work and the work of every other community organizer in the country, and yet HE is the elitist? Get that weak **** out of here.
B-Bob, I understand your point, as well as you being a huge Obama supporter, and if you want to donate to his campaign, you should. My point, as an independent, who still going back and forth somewhat, and not wearing partisan goggles did not see it your way. I think the Dems started it by attacking her being from a small town and in turn she shot back at him for being a community organizer. I don't believe Obama was making snide remarks against small town people any more than she was on working for the poor as you stated it. I think both were wrong here, but you can't have your cake here and eat it too.
Why not? They have for Obama's entire Senate stay...errrr... campaign. And I think you're wrong on the last idea you present as well.
Exactly like all the Dems saying McCain is just another term for Bush? It doesn't work for one, and get a pass for the other. One of the parties is closer to the truth.
just wanted to say this is an excellent poll. it is interesting to see the contrast between pro-obama and pro-mccain/undecideds on this.
Not really, that was 23 years ago. He's been an elected official for the last 12 years. And despite what Palin etc may lie about, he has an accomplished record in both legislatures that he has served in. It's cited because he voluntarily chose to serve the community in lieu of taking a lucrative wall street job, just like he turned down the Sidley job after law school.
I caught the speech in downtown St. Paul at a bar with some Republicans who were cheering her on. That said I thought she started off better but didn't finish that strong. Outside of her family stuff what she said seemed pretty boilerplate and formulaic but at the end after she finished her speech she had a dear in the headlights look and seemed a little lost on that big stage. Also while the RNC crowd was cheering I didn't get the feeling they were as enthusiastic as the DNC crowd was. It might be that the RNC crowd is somewhat sedater but I didn't the same feeling of energy out of them that the DNC.
It was good for what it was... a speech written mostly by McCain's people and delivered by an ambitious politician with the support of true believers. She'll get dinged on the vagaries and the outright lies, but it fired up the convention attendees. It also makes her a formidable candidate for the 2012 Republican nomination. All in all, about what I expected... though I did think they'd try to make her look more wonky and competent.
