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The Palin Speech: Thoughts?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Major, Sep 3, 2008.

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What did you think of the Speech?

  1. I favor Obama, thought it was good

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  2. I favor Obama, thought it was not good

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  3. I favor McCain, though it was good

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  4. I favor McCain, though it was not good

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  5. I am neutral, thought it was good

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  6. I am neutral, thought it was not good

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  1. mic

    mic Member

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    Fixed.
     
  2. SWTsig

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    so learning is bad?
     
  3. The Real Shady

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    I thought it was a good speech, but I've heard much better from Obama. The right is trying to make it much better then it is, and the left is calling it crap... which is expected. You can tell by watching Fox News the right is so craving their version of Obama.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Palin on earmarks...you know when she got them.....large picture with Palin's remarks in the margins...when she got Earmarks for her small town.

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    Link

    Another hypocrit.

    Kudos to Oski2005 for finding this.

    DD
     
  5. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Yeah, why so snide? Why the lack of policy, followed up by ad hominem Obama remarks?

    She is poised, confident, and delivers in good meter.

    Gergen loved her speech, totally and absolutely, but conclued his remarks on PBS with "still a policy void for the GOP here."
     
  6. surrender

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    Hahaha, Obama was a community organizer! He set up job training and college prep programs in one of the poorest areas in the country! Hahahaha what a ****ing loser, let's laugh at him!

    Palin is a vile b****.
     
  7. Major

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    OK, I thought she was a good speaker and did a good job at making an attack speech... but wasn't the speech supposed to teach us about her? I didn't hear a word of her views anything besides energy. Nothing on foreign policy - Iraq, Iran, Russia, war on Terror, Afghanistan, etc. I don't see what the point was - we already knew she had 5 kids, a snowboarding husband, is good at energy, and dislikes liberals. Weren't we supposed to learn new things about her?
     
  8. rocketsregle

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    So much that McCain surprised the convention by making an appearance like Obama. ;)

    Palin looked comfortable at the podium but had little substance in the speech. Giuliani's speech seemed to never end.
     
  9. Chief Rocka

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    I don't know about you but I definetly want someone way smarter than me in that position......
     
  10. SWTsig

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    as max put it, she played a good cheerleader (and looked a damn fine cheerleader to boot!), but that speech clearly lacked substance... hoo-rah, rally the troops type stuff is fine, but i'm getting sick of the conservatives publicly stated approach of "personality over issues." personality is what put W in the oval office for eight years, and i can't get behind that at all.

    she brings next to nothing on a substantiative level, and i fail to see how her hardline right-wing stances on things like abortion, gun rights, social policies, et al will win over many independents and undecideds.

    and nevermind the fact that she blatantly lied about the bridge to nowhere ordeal and earmarking.
     
  11. mc mark

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    Probably not, just a sad, little pawn.
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    culture war
     
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    Palin showed that the Republicans are prepared to run another gutter campaign, with ad hominem attacks, exaggerations, and flat out lies.

    I was impressed with Palin's composure, but her speech was muddled and lacked substance. The speech was 40 percent "McCain POW/Character," 40 percent "Obama sucks," 15 percent "I'm a mom," and 5 percent random policy talking points.
     
  14. surrender

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    If the Democrats had any balls, they would run a campaign ad consisting of clips of Giuliani and Palin mocking Obama's community organization and captioning it with "THIS IS WHAT REPUBLICANS REALLY THINK OF THE POOR"
     
  15. Desert Scar

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    I think it was a great speech.

    I think she was an excellent choice for McCain, than man isn't going down without a fight.

    Look at it this way, she had the social conservatives ecstatic and didn't even have to mention abortion, creationism, guns or prayer in school once. Meanwhile she has the I'm a hockey mom from a small town and really know your needs and values thing down pat.

    Yeah maybe the speech was lacking in specifics, frequently negative/mocking and has false statements--but I not sure if non political junkies will care.

    The only cavout is whether she come off too negative, too mocking, in short, too mean. It will be interesting how her speech will resonate with women. Will she be perceived as the *itch who doesn't get along with other women/one who stone cold you fired you. As a man she strikes me as someone who might get on your case about your lawn having one too many weeds with the home owners association. Hillary IMO looks comparatively "soft", and they through the "B" word around with her. They talk about her Alaskan popularity, but it is more rural and manly (to be polite)--we will have to see the appeal to a wider swath.

    The Republicans have created the only kind of ticket with a punchers chance. I think I'll send a $100 bucks to Obama tomorrow because McCain-Palin might be able to pull off this wolves in sheep's clothing thing.
     
  16. SWTsig

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    without a doubt.
     
  17. SamFisher

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    meant to post this in this thread. All these f-king duplicate threads are confusing

    Tim Noah from Slate nails it

    BEFORE the speech was delivered


    The "Star is born" comment was EXACTLY what Wolf or somebody on CNN said. Dead serious.
     
  18. radapharoah

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    I think it might actually happen
     
  19. surrender

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    Also, isn't it ironic that Republicans preach that charity, not government handouts, is the cure to our social ills, yet Obama was mocked tonight for... performing charitable work?
     
  20. Desert Scar

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    Of course, because that is their chance. They can't make it an ideological or policy fight in todays political climate except on drumming up 9/11 fear. Palin did her job very, very, well.

    Play up the military, 9/11, McCain is a hero Barack is a flip flopper who hasn't done anythign of substance, while publicly running away from everything else Washington Republicans have been doing (even though McCain and Palin vote like just about strait conservative Republicans--highlight the few exceptions to paint that they are corruption fighters). It is a brilliant strategy--don't know if it will fool people, but a fighting chance too, and more of a chance than any two other paired Repub candidates I could think of.
     

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