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The Official Rick and Ricky in Minnesota Thread

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by _RTM_, Dec 9, 2011.

  1. jopatmc

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    Didn't say they were a lock. What I said was some of you won't be convinced he's ROY unless he leads Minny to the playoffs. ; ) Because you have to be hit between the eyes and have hindsight instead of being able to see the future in front of you.

    Minny does have a shot at the 8th seed.

    The most amazing rookies DO single-handedly turn their teams around.

    Signed,

    Larry Bird
     
  2. redhotrox

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    I think he deserves ROY. He does everything better than Irving except for shooting. But make no mistake, Adelman has a lot to do with Minnesota looking better as a team. At first your tune was Rubio's talent combined with one of the most genius offensive minds would help make Rubio a star and Minnesota a better team. Now it's just Rubio. Minnesota fans are obviously seeing the whole picture.
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

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    Adelman is a great coach for that young team.

    At first I felt bad for Adelman going to what I thought was a bad team, but he has some real talent to work with up there.
     
  4. jopatmc

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    I have never, ever, ever said Adelman wasn't a part of their success. On the contrary, Adelman is a coach that will recognize talent and put it in the best position to succeed. It is Adelman's willingness to let the kid have his head that is behind Rubio's success.

    Bill Fitch was a big reason for the 1979-80 Boston Celtics turnaround too, when Bird was a rookie.

    Quit putting words into my posts.
     
  5. SPF35

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    Despite ricky not being exceptionally quick or athletic, his timing and instincts on defense are impressive due to his professional experience. On the other hand, espn goes on to say kyrie is a better defender when his own coach called him out that he needs to focus on defense. Objectively,although ricky is top 3 in the league in steals, if you see the small battier type of things he does on defense, you can see he is a smarter defeneder who makes an impact beyond the box score
     
  6. redhotrox

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    I wasn't putting words into your posts, just pointing out that there was another big factor to this equation that you failed to mention. It seems like you overhype Rubio by making it seem like one rookie is immediately lifting his team out of the cellar like it's never been done before. But let's not get carried away, it's not like Rubio is a top 10 player right now, he's still a rookie. A big part of them looking like an improved team is going from a terrible coach to a damn good one. Glad you seem to agree with me.
     
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  7. SPF35

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    no, I don't agree with the above poster. I think everyone appreciates what rubio is doing and is talking about it. Adelman is not getting mentioend because he is no surprise. He wins and makes the best of his situation wherever he goes, that is why he is known as a great coach. And anyone who knows hoops knows it takes opportunity, timing, system in order to flourish. Rubio under a nother coach or different cast might not work. Hell if fredette was playing with Adelman he might be doing better off, if morrison did too. If you notice, from Bibby, Jwill, terry porter, to Lowry, etc they all did really well under adelman bc he molds his style to let teh players strengths flow. He is the epitome of a players' coach
     
  8. jopatmc

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    That is very true. Whoever at ESPN said Kyrie was the better defender either mispoke and meant to say Ricky or they got their head up their ...
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Ricky should be ROY, the guy is a special special player, I wish Morey had managed to pry him away from Minny.

    Dang...

    DD
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    Looks like Lowry taught him a thing or too.

    He's played a lot better since the Kyle trouncing.
     
  11. Outlier

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    This is random but if I had to choose between Blake Griffin and Ricky Rubio to build around, I would pick Rubio.
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Hmm, I don't think I would go that far.

    Not yet anyway.

    But Blake needs to learn the little things which Rubio already does so well.
     
  13. SPF35

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    Blake is a beast and a force to be reckon with. Rubio is easier to build around simply because PG has the most control and can change the game the most, then a Center so naturally you would choose one of those to build around.
     
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    Webster is back and he is a huge upgrade over Ellington. They need to trade Beasley+Randolph for Kaman.
     
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    1 pt, 3 asts, 2 rebs through 3 quarters.
     
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    you guys aren't exactly fair
     
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    Why aren't there any videos of Rubio flopping? He's a Euro isn't he? Why isn't he following the basic rules of being a Euro player??

    Don't let Paul and Griff out-Euro you, young fella!
     
  18. redhotrox

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    The people pretty much putting him on a pedestal as the best rookie of all time aren’t fair, and the ones calling him Eurotrash aren’t fair either. He’ a rookie; he’s shown some great play, but he’s inconsistent at times too. When he’s not hitting shots at a decent clip, he's usually hurting his team some. If DD’s being fair he must think Rubio should be benched like Lowry since he’s shooting pretty poorly.
     
  19. SPF35

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    he struggled, not just rookies, all players have it. Hell look at lowry's last 5 games. Its not a surprise he needs to improve on his shooting. But evne then, he hit the game tying bucket in the 4th, brought them back had 6 assists to bring em back in the game. Once again, he can affect the game without scoring. Almost a Rondo/Jkidd type of player
     
  20. heypartner

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    Bill Fitch? Are you kidding me. That is like saying Westhead led Magic to a Finals.

    Fitch sucked.

    Fitch rode Bird's coattails. And Bird got him fired eventually, just like Magic got Westhead fired, despite the fact both Fitch and Westhead "won" titles with Bird and Magic.
     

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