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The Official President Trump Thread - Second Term Edition

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Scarface281, Jan 25, 2025.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    Well that's just not true at all.
     
  2. Rileydog

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    That’s fair. Mine was an overstatement. I suppose some aggies and red raiders have those family ties and also want to stay closer to home. But it’s quite rare for a kid to pick those schools over a top 20 college.
     
  3. Buck Turgidson

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    Depends on what you want to study. Talking about those 2 as if they're some sort of glorified trade schools is totally ridiculous.
     
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    It was not my intention to speak poorly about Tech and A&M and they are most certainly not glorified trade schools. I know A&M is particularly strong in engineering, increasingly strong in business, vet sciences of course, and I believe Tech is also, including petroleum engineering.

    I was just stating objective data - kids who are admitted to Tech, A&M, as well as top private colleges will rarely choose Tech or A&M. That’s what the data says. If they do, it is typically due to cost, family affiliation, or desire to stay closer to home. Those are also facts.

    It is also factually accurate that the GPAs and SAT and ACT scores of kids at Tech and A&M are much lower than kids at the top private colleges. But it doesn’t mean that Tech or A&M students are bad, worthless, stupid or have lousy futures. It is just comparative data. But I get that it can come across as assholic toward Tech and A&M students. I have many Aggie friends and colleagues and a couple Red Raiders too, albeit fewer.

    Mostly, I was just demonstrating to El Conquistador that he was being stupid.
     
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  5. ThatBoyNick

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    Denmark actually doesn’t get that much ice or snow. Around 20 days a year with 20 total inches. It’s on par with a place like Indianapolis.

    Despite being much further north, it being a maritime country that is in the path of the Gulf Stream keeps lows relatively very mild. Its lowest average monthly low stays over 30 degrees in Copenhagen.
     
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  6. Buck Turgidson

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    Well, your first mistake was treating him like an honest part of a proper conversation.

    I thought we all learned this over a decade ago?
     
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  7. Buck Turgidson

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    Don't argue with me, take it up with the Vikings
     
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    All I will tell you is an Ivy League education isn't worth what it once was. The Ivy league schools aren't about teaching American students. They're about making money and admitting as many foreign students as possible because they can make more money admitting foreign students than students from this country. This is the reason for all of anti sementic BS that's currently going on at Ivy League schools.
     
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    There does need to be foreign workers, they need to be sent back to their country of origin and let in as we see fit as a country. We do need workers, what we dont need is children working as sweatshop laborers.

    BTW, What Trump's doing now is a reaction that the voters voted him in for as a reaction to Biden's open border policies.
     
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    Canada, on the other hand, checks out as the land of snow.
     
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  14. Buck Turgidson

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    Guess that's why Leif Erikson discovered North America

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  15. Rileydog

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    There are many gaps in your statements here. I can take them one by one.

    - An Ivy League education isn’t worth what it once was. Hmm, do you actually know what an Ivy League education was once worth and how do you measure it? The Ivy League schools were previously white and male dominated. Today, they are more diverse, more international, and more women are being admitted than men (I think that’s true across all colleges because women are outperforming men in high school). Do you mean an Ivy League degree was worth more before because you didn’t have to deal with minorities and women? Or do you suggest that the graduate school and employment opportunities of current graduates are less than what they were before? I honestly don’t think you have any idea what you are talking about when you attempt to discuss the value of an Ivy League education, past or present.

    - My post included many top colleges that are not Ivy League. Stanford, Duke, MIT, Vanderbilt, U Chicago, Wash U, Rice University. Are they also not worth a crap anymore in your opinion?

    - you say the Ivy League schools aren’t about teaching American students bc they are admitting a bunch of antisemetic international students bc international students pay the most …. Well, one part is true - international students pay the most tuition. The rest of your argument is nonsense. Are you trying to suggest that Harvard is admitting a bunch of Palestinian international students? If so, that is patently false. Want to guess what countries have sent the most international students? India and China. Are you saying Indian and Chinese students are blasting anti semetic sentiment at Harvard?

    - For some reason, you think the presence of international students at Ivy League schools is a negative. Why is that? The vast majority of American students at top universities are admitted because they are smart, intellectual, curious about other countries and cultures, and they attend these universities because they get the opportunity to engage with international students. The entire point of college is to expand your horizons, have new experiences, learn, and improve your prospects for success in the future.

    I think you have been watching Fox News and forming your opinions about not only Ivy League colleges, but also other top universities like Duke, Vanderbilt, Rice, Georgetown, Johns Hopkins and other great schools. These universities are not perfect, but they are great. These best and brightest kids from around the world try to get in and those who do benefit tremendously, and they are well positioned for success after college.

    The most valid criticism of these schools is that they not accessible to all qualified students because they are small and there are not enough spots for all qualified students. The number of extremely bright and well-qualified kids that do not get into these schools is ridiculously high and it is a bit unfair.

    Even a conservative teenager who is smart and well qualified would benefit from going to a top college because the whole point of college is to learn, including exposure to other cultures, viewpoints, and people.
     
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    There is no disagreement between us as to child labor, whether American citizens or illegal immigrants.

    It seems you also concede the broader point - Trump isn’t deporting illegals in the farming, hospitality, restaurant and construction industries because he and the leaders of those industries believe that the illegal immigrant workers cannot be adequately replaced by American citizens.

    I have no idea why you keep repeating different variations of “Trump is doing what 77 million voters elected him to do” in every thread. I mean, sixty something million people voted against him. Whoop Dee doo.

    Funny enough, 77 million voters voted for him to deport illegal immigrants. He is in fact giving you guys the finger because he won’t deport illegals working in those industries. He lied to you and sold out to special interests in those industries.
     
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    Was going to reply but @Rileydog nailed it already. Also...it's anti-Semitic.
     
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    I don’t know your position on the Israel/Hamas issue. But I will tell you that all of the colleges I listed, including Ivys and non Ivy’s, have had protests against the terrorism by Hamas, as well as Israel killing civilians in Gaza. Students of all backgrounds participated in both protests. I have a kid at one of these schools, and many friends with kids at these schools.

    Yes, some antisemetic stuff happened and exists at those and other schools. Yes, some Jewish students have had bad experiences, particularly at Columbia. That is terrible and should not be diminished.

    The students at these schools are exceptionally smart and aware of the world they live in. They understand that Hamas committed an atrocious act of terror and that many Israeli’s do not support the genocide in Gaza. If anything, the protests and anti semitism have made them more aware of the problems in this world, the importance of education and understanding their common man, and more determined to make things better. That is exactly what you want the future of this country to learn in college.

    And @El_Conquistador thinks kids are going to get this at Central Mississippi Valley State.
     
  19. Buck Turgidson

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    I like that @raining threes has pivoted from "Trump Administration will get rid of the "incompetent Ivy Leaguers" in Government"

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    "**** them kids getting an education"
     
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  20. Rileydog

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    heyo, you’re directing this at Raining Threes and not me, right?

    my first sentence was identifying his statement that Ivy League schools aren’t teaching American kids anymore bc they want to admit a bunch of anti semetic international students who pay the most tuition.
     

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