The Official President Trump Thread - Second Term Edition

Do you know the definition of the word ILLEGAL? They shouldn't be here to begin with and they damned sure shouldn't have SS #'s or DL's. An illegal just gt in a wreck this week with an illegal that shouldn't be here to begin with. I'm screwed and I'm sure my insurance premiums will be going up far more that this POS will be paying into SS.

 

I believe what Tim Cook said, you dont?

 

They use fake SSNs for payroll jobs. They are not issued to them by the govt. They then have taxes withheld from their paychecks, with no hopes of ever receiving benefits. You should know this by now.

Everyone should have uninsured motorist coverage. You should know this by now.

 

It's amusing because I can remember when US Flag lapel pins were the Republicans' loyalty test. Priorities shift, I guess. Gotta go with what is important to you.

 

Point is they shouldn't be here to begin with.

I do have uninsured motorist but my premiums will go up.

 

Immigrants were on TPS/Asylum/DACA are given social security numbers by the government to pay taxes. On the social security card it specifically states it's only used for work purposes and can't be used for any other purpose.

Last year legal Immigrants paid close to 55 billion in taxes without any hope of getting a dollar back

 

It's been a while since private school, but I'm pretty sure the Ten Commandments says something about this.

 

Right. The "they" I was talking about were illegals.

 

Your boy Trump has decided that certain illegals are AOK and shall not be deported (and I'm not talking about Musk).

You know, instead of actually creating a visa system for manual labor jobs.

 

I know and I disagree with him on this.

Main thing is stopping them from voting.

 

That's a problem that does not exist, according to all available data.

 

Ever since COVID taught everyone a huge lesson that global supply chains should be redundant and not so tied to one country like China, Apple and every major tech company started divesting from China as their sole manufacturing hub. This actually began even before COVID, but the pandemic accelerated it. The CHIPS and Science Act (reshoring advanced manufacturing) also became easier to pass because of COVID.

All of this was already in motion. Apple announced additional facilities back in Feb, including a 500 billion dollar investment to expand their data centers, add server assembly, and increase funding for its Advanced Manufacturing Fund, which started in 2016. Apple had also announced close to 500 billion dollars in U.S. investments during the previous administration.

All of this happened before the recent tariff yo-yoing. And that yo-yoing? It is not good, to put it very lightly. Even just the loss of confidence in the U.S. government will cost us dearly.

 

Agreed, and Cook said he was going to invest even more after Trump won the POTUS. It's time to bring the jobs home even if there's short term pain. More jobs and manufacturing in this country will be a great thing because building those factories will create jobs for a bunch of different businesses. Builders need plumbing/electrical/concrete/dirt work/sheetrock/ in my case pest control. Small business that pay well. Then after being built these companies should have good paying jobs for their workers. You also will have to build houses and apartment complexes for these workers to live in. Is not being dependent on other countries for goods worth paying 10-20% more on goods knowing there will be more good paying jobs and more tax dollars as a result? For me the answer is a resounding yes. Can we get back to NAFTA?CAFTA times, of course we can and it seems that the blue collar workers are on board with this. Wall St. not so much. BTW, The Dow is up 1.56% last week overall. Not a bad week at all and now considering the House passed the reconcilliation bill with the senate to follow I expect even more gains and even better once the new Tariff deals that are being discussed are renegotiated.

 

Wow.

 

I even bolded the word LEGAL.

 

It's like we don't even live in the same dimension...

 

Modern manufacturing is highly automated, so even if factories are built, they won't create a large number of long-term jobs. There's nothing wrong with bringing modern manufacturing back to the country - we should, as we're trying to do with the Chips and Science Act (which, btw, this administration opposes), but expecting that to generate long-term jobs is wrong. Consider farming. Modern farming uses only a fraction of the human labor needed in the 1800s and demands higher skills. Likewise, modern manufacturing requires skilled workers, and tariffs alone do not solve the training issue.

When costs go up for U.S. businesses, exports go down because we can't compete, and that hurts American businesses. Ultimately, you'll lose more domestic jobs in today's integrated global trade environment because you simply can't compete. Sustained higher costs in the U.S. hurt both consumers and businesses.

The market is volatile, going up and down, but the core reason it went up slightly after a continuous downturn is that businesses reacted to the possibility that high tariffs won't last. Companies value predictability so they can plan long term, and in a chaotic environment, many will simply wait until a sense of normalcy returns. Bringing back manufacturing is a very expensive, multi-year, sometimes multi-decade process, and businesses need sustained normalcy, not chaos, to invest in such long-term plans. In the absence of that stability, they usually hold back.

Factories in the U.S. were already closing long before NAFTA or the rise of China. The reason is simple - technological advances and increased productivity mean fewer workers are needed. You don't want to revert to old technology or you'll be left uncompetitive, inching closer to a 3rd world economy. Labor has to evolve with the times, and it's much better to invest in new skills rather than trying to return to outdated systems. To bring it back to farming once more, imagine if the U.S. government, right after the industrial revolution, insisted on returning to agrarian practices - you'd be left in the dust.

I'm all for better trade deals. What I've seen implemented so far has been a disaster - there's no clear communication or strategy, just chaos that has already contributed to a bear market, eroded confidence in the U.S. government, and alienated many.

 

EdwardC and Andre are two of the most clueless posters here