Yes...and it is pretty awesome IMO. I've been a Live guy for so long but the game just kept getting worse and worse. 2K7 is a much better game and much more realistic. The graphics are pretty good but the players still don't look much like them.
Graphics: http://www.gamespot.com/features/6162742/p-5.html Gameplay: http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/nba2k7/review.html?sid=6161984&page=2 (basically about the same game no matter which way you go).
They're more or less the same, though the PS3 did get some minor upgrades. For example, VC "fixed" some of the faces in the game. For example: Spoiler Thanks to EekTheKat at NeoGAF for the pics. The PS3 version also supports 1080p, although I've heard that there are some framerate issues when playing in 1080p. Thanks to the controller setup, I think the game supports 7 players at once, as well as 5 vs 5 online (guess 5 people per PS3? Don't quite get that feature). There's the SIXAXIS functionality for shooting free throws, which I believe DrewP commented on earlier in the thread. I think there are minor updates with the game (like bug fixes and better AI) too. That's from what 2K/VC said though. I'm not sure if anyone who has played both versions has commented on that. Compared to the other games on both systems, NBA2K7 is probably one of the games that is the most "unique" on the PS3. It is still basically the same game though. Certainly not worth buying again (or, even worse, buying a PS3 for assuming you have a 360).
Here's the FF vs XIII CG trailer from E3: http://61.195.57.11/members/special/ffv13_01/AuvE4KeV.flv (FLV link) http://61.195.57.11/members/special/ffv13_01/FFVersus13_Movie.swf (SWF link)
And the hits KEEP coming for Sony. Blu-Ray negatively perceived BECAUSE of the PS3 in part: LINK Same games look better on the 360: LINK I mean... the PS2 had great games and was a nice relatively cheap DVD player. The PS3 has crap for games, almost all of the great ones it wil have will also be on the 360, its online system is crap compared to Live, and it's only an "enhanced" DVD player - not some revolutionary new format. Hell, it's a proprietary format at that - a la UMD... Anyway, it's sad. Sony I think has lost it's gaming vision...
By the way, a poster threw this out there - I had not really thought about it before, but considering I used my PS2, Xbox, and 360 as both game AND movie players - this really hits home; "There is one major added advantage to the 360's set-up. It didn't even really occur to me how cool it was until I'd been using it for a few weeks. With the duel-drive set-up, you can have a game and a movie in the system at the same time, and switch between the two. It doesn't seem like much, but I constantly will switch from gaming to watching a movie or vice versa, and never even have to get out of my chair. Yes, I'm lazy, but dammit, I love being able to do that."
Oh and RC - I hate you for posting a pic of Chris Kaman's digital face. I will not be able to sleep tonight.
Not sure how the true effect the PS3 has on Blu-ray can be measured since it only came out a few weeks ago (and this survey started over 6 months ago I believe). Basing the data on message board posts is kind of strange too...oh well, I guess it is good to know that the websites used in the survery were 46% more positive towards HD-DVD than Blu-ray...whatever that means. We kind of talked a little bit about this a few pages ago. Seems like PS2-DC part deux. I will say that, while I haven't played the games, I'm a little confused by some of the comments regarding these comparisons. For example, I believe Gamespot says something about the 360 version of FNR3 "definitely" having better lighting. Again, I haven't played the games, but that certainly doesn't seem the case for me. The 360's lighting has way too much bloom, while the PS3 version looks more "natural." Guess more bloom = better lighting for Gamespot. Pretty much everything on the PS3 version looks better AFAIK (pretty noticeably from what I can tell), except for the crowds, which I don't even understand. I can't believe how EA dropped the ball on that. Still, I don't think it is that big of a deal, nor do I understand how people can say the 360 version looks better. Most of the videos and screens I've seen from the games seem to suggest the PS3 version looks better, or, at the very least, they look about the same. Also, regarding this part of the Joystiq post: I wonder if someone will break it to them that it will be impossible to compare NBA Live on both systems since NBA Live is only on the 360. The PS3 version was cancelled. I guess that shows you how much effort went into all this... BTW, the person at Joystiq that posted those two articles also posted this article from a few weeks ago (which some of you may remember): http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/26/resistance-17-75gb-of-garbage/ The PS2 had great games, but they certainly didn't come out at launch or even anytime near it. Those great games didn't start coming out until maybe 12 months or so after launch (Gran Turismo, GTA, Ico, DMC, Final Fantasy, Twisted Metal, Silent Hill, etc.). The PS3 launch is probably better than the PS2 launch just due to the fact that at least one game is really awesome (Resistance). In the next 12 months or so (basically 2007), I'm guessing/hoping the following (exclusive) games come out for the PS3: Virtua Fighter 5 MotorStorm Warhawk Devil May Cry 4 Metal Gear Solid 4 R&C Next-gen Unreal Tournament 2007 (probably going multiplatform, but I'm listing it here until they make it official) Heavenly Sword NGS (probably not a big deal though, but I read some NG fans would buy a PS3 just for this, so I'm listing it anyway) F1 (eh...probably didn't deserve to be listed, but it looks really pretty ) I'm hoping that some other games hit around that time too, such as GT5, FFXIII (and/or FF vs XIII), Tekken 6 (but not the crap they showed at E3), Team Ico's next project, Naughty's Dog's game, Soul Calibur 4 (supposedly PS3 exclusive, but maybe not), Silent Hill 5 (assuming PS3-exclusive), and Level 5's RPG (White Knight Story). I guess if Killzone PS3 is as good as Killzone Liberations, that might be something to look forward to as well. SCE is so big and talented, it would be near impossible for the PS3 not to have some pretty good games that were exclusive to the PS3. I doubt the PS3 will have quite as good a lineup as the PS2 had a year into its life. That was just a crazy lineup for the PS2, and probably a large reason why the PS2 did so well. That said, it seems like there could be several great games exclusive to the PS3 within a year (let alone 5-6 years). I've said this before I believe, but if there's one thing you can't complain about for the PS3, it is the number of exclusive games coming to the platform. Sony has screwed up a number of other things, but unless something goes horribly wrong for them (DMC, MGS, FF, etc., all going multiplatform), they'll still have a number of great exclusives. Yep. Though it seems much better than the PS2 online system, and if Sony fixes just a few things, the PS3 service should be pretty good. I know they are reserving quite a bit of resources at all times, and AFAIK, none of it is really being used (way to go Sony!). Hopefully they get that straightened out (as well as all the other screw-ups they made which can be fixed with firmware updates). While it is a little early, I am really liking what Sony is doing with the PS Store. PSOne games for $6 (just get them playable on the PS3 now Sony). XBLA-esque games seem to range from $8-$12, although they need a few good ones to come out for that to really matter (hopefully flOw and Gripshift DLX can change that). GTHD downloadable for free should be nice, and if Tekken 5 DR is priced aggressively (say $15, which I believe is the cap for PS Store, but I'm sure it could change), then . That might even prompt other publishers to put out PS2/Arcade games on the PSN, which would be awesome (missed out on a lot of rare games which I'd like to play, especially at ~$15 or so). With the PS3 being region-free, it is also nice that you can, AFAIK, download from any region's store...assuming Sony ever gets those damn PS Store cards in stores. They'll need to work on a few things though, namely server speeds and the ability to download and use your PS3 at the same time. There seems to be a lot of interest in HD movies. I don't think that interest is anywhere near as high as it was for DVD back in the day, but I think the interest is still pretty strong (tinman will tell you how important HD is ). And the PS3 does happen to be the cheapest Blu-ray player (and "relatively" cheap for a HD movie player in general), not to mention the best Blu-ray player available (don't think that was the case for the PS2). One thing you didn't mention was that Linux support for the PS3 is (or will be) much stronger than it was for the PS2; there are already a bunch of cool things being done on it already, and I imagine things will only get better. A lot of potential here, although it will take a lot of work to realize that potential (basically like everything else for the PS3). Not really. There is only one UMD player, which is the PSP of course (made by Sony). There are a number of Blu-ray players and devices, made by a number of different companies (Samsung, Panasonic, Pioneer, etc.) with support from a number of other companies (TDK, Disney, Fox, p*rn studios , etc). If Universal would pledge support for Blu-ray, that would mean that pretty much every major player in the movie industry supports the format. Not quite a la UMD. More a la DVD or CD (which Sony also created) if anything. Maybe that's why they promoted Kaz "RIIIIIDGE RACER" Hirai. Maybe he can help them find it.
lol, you tard how many great games did the PS2 have two weeks after launch? none. ever stop to think about that? or did you just conveniently 'forget' to mention it? or is that whole point just lost on you and over your head lol
Review sites comparing 360 version of games to ps3 are utterly r****ded. They know their comparing a "rushed port" ps3 to a polished product/360 version. How can you give a fair comparison when a game and or engine has been optimized for one system and you try to port it onto another system with a totally different architecture? You honestly can't. If you believe that the 360 is superior based on this...all I can say is wait until March 07 when some real ps3 games are released, (excluding resistance).
That gamespot comparison article is full of contradictory statements. Why does it seem so pro xbox? Maybe I am biased... But its almost like the article is written with the purpose to debunk the thought that the PS3 is superior graphically.
You do realize that most games are going multi-platform now. Developers are increasingly less likely to spend a great deal of resources "amping up" - if that's even possible - the same game they created for the 360 just for the PS3. You are not going to see much difference a year or three from platform to platform on the same games. I would also contend that none of the games currently on both systems have been "rushed" for the PS3 release. The devkits have been in people's hands for a long time.
i love it when people who have no clue of how the actual architecture/hardware works, make stupid jumps in logic and generalizations. Seems like google and the interweb has instantly created millions of experts. Are you a software engineer/developer/programer? probably not, so you don't know what your talking about. (now if you are, then i apologize) "well it's a cell processor.." or.." it has 3 cores"...so i guess it's 3.7x better than that one... "but i read it on ign and gamespot said the exact same thing!?" I've tried to compare the specs and have even tried to make conclusions based upon my total lack of knowledge...just doesn't work that way I don't know anything about that and really don't care to. All I want are some good games and death to fanboys (ms and sony).
Yeah, I more or less agree with this. I imagine games will be mostly alike on both platforms, with some subtle differences (XBL achievements and features, SIXAXIS functionality, etc.). Some developers might do more than others though. For example, it seems like VC added some things to the PS3 version of NBA 2K7 (such as the new faces), most of which wasn't really necessarily (none of the other developer did anything similar). Since it should be easy to do, I suppose some developers might elect to use the PS3's HDD to improve loading times like some other games, which would be nice for PS3 owners. Unless the PS3 starts selling like the PS2 and/or Sony provides some awesome tools (what are the chances of both of these things happening? ), I don't think multiplatform developers (Activision, EA, Ubisoft, etc.) will really try to get the most out of the PS3 (or either system actually). Sony's going to need their 1st/2nd parties to show what the PS3 can do, along with any 3rd parties with PS3-exclusive games. I personally don't think that will be much of a problem though since Sony seems to be pretty strong in both areas (though they could be weakening when it comes to exclusive 3rd party support). I don't know if I'd used the term "rushed," but I certainly would have liked it if some of these games stayed in the oven a little longer (even the 360 versions). IIRC, COD3 for the PS3 had like 4 patches on day one, which is pretty inexcusable. Most of the issues seem to be with the framerate and just dumb bugs, but it seems like those are occurring on both systems. It just seems like most of the developers at these big publishers need some extra time trying to figure out how both systems work; I certainly hope we won't be having these bugs and framerate issues when Madden 09, NBA Live 09 (not that I'd play it anyway), Tony Hawk Project 10, etc., come out. If Neversoft can't get TH8 to run smoothly on the 360 after developing on it for more than a year, I can't really have high hopes for the PS3 version. Most of his comments seemed valid from what I could tell. Basing the power of either system on multiplatform games at launch is kind of pointless, especially with unoptimized code (and I'm sure there's a lot of that going around). Now I don't know if that was Gamespot's purpose (kind of just skimmed the article TBH); if so, then yeah, I wouldn't put much stock in it. If it was just to show how games that are out right now on both systems compare, then what they did is fine with me. There are some people that want to know how each games looks on both systems, and that feature attempts to answer those questions (although some answers seemed confusing to me, as I mentioned earlier). Whatever the performance gap is between the two systems, it will probably take some exclusive games (with big budgets and a 2-3 year development time most likely) to show what that gap is. Cell by itself requires a high learning curve, and it will probably take developers a while to fully understand.
