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The Official PlayStation 3 Launch Thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by RC Cola, Nov 9, 2006.

  1. Miguel

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    *enter tinman*
     
  2. Coach AI

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    Are you kidding?

    You posted his post, I said that he seemed more enthusiastic than all the reviews but it definitely looked to be a good game, and you automatically went into 'defend Bebpo (whoever the heck he is)' mode from there on out.

    Then I said something about GAF (which, apparently, you also agree with) and I got another long, scolding post from you. ;)

    And you even agreed with me to begin with.

    Again, I still don't know what point you are trying to make; but you're going in circles and there's no reason to keep coming back to it. We could be doing more constructive things, like Miguel, and making fun of tinman.
     
  3. gucci888

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    KePoW- Does it make that much of a difference? I was at Best Buy yesterday and the cheapest cables they had were $60.00 and had one that was $100.00!

    I have a brand new Sony Bravia HDTV so I'm guessing it has the components for HDMI.
     
  4. B

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    You can get HDMI cables for less than $30 at svideo.com. Thank me later.
     
  5. Rocket G

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    Wow - the hits keep coming for Sony:

    Sony loses more exclusives to the 360:

    LINK

    Who needs Blu-Ray or HD-DVD? Now you can dload HD content directly on Xbox Live:

    LINK

    Analysts think Sony may have shipped less than half the target # to North America:

    LINK

    :eek:
     
  6. KePoW

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    dude, if you have a HDTV then it especially makes like a 100x difference. but it sounds like you're not that knowledgeable on the specifics of your TV, so make sure it even has a HDMI input before you go out and buy a cable

    if it doesn't, then get the PS3 component cable at least, that still makes a big difference. put it this way, with composite cables the PS3 won't even be outputting games and movies in high-def
     
  7. WhoMikeJames

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    I want a PS3 but then this voice in my head keeps telling me the PS3 is a bust get a 360!
     
  8. Miguel

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    yeah I recommend Monoprice too, for all cable needs
     
  10. chow_yun_fat

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    28awg isn't bad...but I would recommend spending a lil more and buy the 24awg instead.
     
  11. WhoMikeJames

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    Can someone send me hte link of the 60GB HD of the PS3 so i can replace it with my 20GB HD.
     
  12. RC Cola

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    I tried to explain exactly why I might put some stock into Bebpo's review, and how he wasn't just some random PS3 early adopter. I know most people didn't know who he was, so I provided a bit of a background on him, as well as some reasons why I trust his word over others. I guess that is defending him, although I'm not directly defending his opinions about Resistance (can't do that until I play the game myself).
    This I agreed with:
    This I didn't agree with:
    And I explained why already.

    You said 2 different things regarding GAF, I only agreed with one.

    Regarding Bebpo and his GOTY comments? Yep. Other things? Not so much.

    I've tried to make multiple points here based on the various things being discussed. Here's the rundown:

    Bebpo's GOTY/Best FPS comments- I find these hard to believe, just like most here.

    Bebpo as a reliable source for impressions/reviews- He's been dead-on in the past (for me anyway), and because of this, I tend to put more trust in his opinions on games than others (even some of the other "professional" reviewers). Difficult to explain unless you've followed his reviews/impressions in the past (hoped people would just take my word on that).

    GAF being a source of objectivity- Disagree with that, already explained why.

    People with agenda's posting crap at GAF- Yep, just like any forum really.

    Poor impressions from Resistance at the beginning of the game - The game is apparently somewhat unimpressive for the first few hours, but takes a big jump in quality as the game progresses.

    All the PS3 early adopters calling Resistance GOTY- Nope, that's definitely not the case. Hence the claim of exaggeration.

    That should sum up pretty much all the points I was trying to make in the past few posts. We've changed topics time to time, so I would be agreeing and disagreeing with you in the same posts. I wasn't going in circles (at least in none of the things I just mentioned above...I've been pretty consistent on those points AFAIK). Maybe you took me disagreeing with you about the objectivity of GAF (or something else I disagreed about) as me also disagreeing with you about Bepbo's comments regarding Resistance as GOTY?
     
  13. RC Cola

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    I'm not sure if I understand what you're asking for. You mean a link to the HDD Sony is using in their 60GB PS3s? I'm not sure if there is any place to find that (easily anyway). It is basically just a 60GB 2.5" SATA HDD though. If you want to replace the 20GB with a bigger HDD, you can just order one that fits the specs of the PS3.
     
  14. Coach AI

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    To me, the two GAF points are related. The first one is true because of the second. People have their reasons/agendas for doing those things I talked about. Obviously not everyone, but that place is filled with it. And that alone means it is not the greatest for objectivity.

    I know you love that place, and it is entertaining, but if you can't see that I can't help you.

    Two, we agree that his impressions are probably a little over the top. end of story.

    The only thing I take issue with is your saying I kept 'bringing it up' over and over again, when my initial post had nothing to do with you, and was just a comment on this guy's impressions.

    Anyhow, looks to be a good game - if and when I pick up a PS3 I'll be sure to put some real time in with it.
     
  15. WhoMikeJames

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    Yeah thats what i mean i don't know which one i need though.
     
  16. chow_yun_fat

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    So, I went into Best Buy today (the Austin Gateway store) looking for a Wii. They didn't have them, but they DID just get a shipment in this afternoon of about 10 PS3s. (I just couldn't wrap my brain around the fact that they did have PS3s, which are impossible to get, but not Wiis, which are easier to get.) So, if you want a PS3, I'd suggest you get there quick. Run, Forrest, run!
     
  18. WhoMikeJames

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    Living in Austin comes in handy.
     
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    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4355223.html

    Playstation 3 resale market cooling down
    Many systems on eBay are down to about $1,000


    By BRAD HEM
    Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle


    Some Sony PlayStation 3 speculators who spent days in line last week hoping to nab one of the hard-to-get new video game systems and turn a big profit by reselling it online are finding there isn't quite as much money to be made as they'd thought.

    As anticipation grew for Friday's launch, prices on eBay exceeded $3,000 and some were selling for more than $5,000. But a cursory review of bidding Wednesday showed most were getting bids approaching $1,000.

    According to eBay, about 17,000 PS3 units sold for an average price of $1,604.69 through Wednesday afternoon. Before last Friday's launch, 3,282 PS3s had sold for an average of nearly $1,900. Since the launch, volume is up to 13,471, but the average price is less than $1,400, according to eBay.

    In Houston, seven of the eight people who got the first batch of PS3s at Circuit City on San Felipe said they would resell them on the Internet. More than half of the 20 people who waited three days in line at a nearby Best Buy also had resale profits in mind. Other media outlets reported similar trends across the country.

    Speculators have flooded the market, and it appears that buyers are willing to wait a little longer before spending much more than the $599 retail price for the 60-gigabyte model.

    It's a lesson in the basic economic principle of supply and demand.

    "What generally happens is when you have an increase in supply, prices go down," said Michael Brandl, an economist at the McCombs School of Business at the University of Texas in Austin. Also at play is what Brandl called the "snob effect," in which consumers rush to be one of the first to get a new product. Once they've gotten theirs, the demand dies down.

    Okechukwu Akpa, a college student at Tuskegee University in Alabama, coordinated with friends and other speculators to get as many PS3s as possible for the sole purpose of reselling them. They got six and have just started posting them on eBay. He has noticed the increased stock at the online auction site, but he thinks the price glut is only temporary.

    When moms and dads go shopping on Friday, they probably won't find PS3s available, and Akpa is hoping they turn to eBay and buy one of his.

    "You're going to have a lot of people going to the store, and there's going to be nothing there for them," Akpa said. He expects demand to pick up again as Christmas nears, he said.

    Greg Vederman, editor of PC Gamer magazine, said prices exceeded $3,000 last week because speculators were buying resold PS3s with the idea of reselling them again.

    "What's happened with the PS3 is that they were being flipped and then repurchased by someone who was going to resell it again," Vederman said. "That seems to have run its course, and now it's come down to something fairly reasonable — with reasonable in quotes."

    The future of the resale market is not promising. Sony said in a statement earlier this week that it would ship more consoles in time for Friday, and the company is optimistic it would reach its target of having 1 million units available by the end of the year.

    "Demand may go up, but I doubt the prices will," Vederman said.

    That's OK with Akpa. He and his partners didn't expect to get thousands of dollars for each game system, he said. They'll be happy to sell them for $1,200 and double their money, he said.

    "We're not about the price gouge," Akpa said.

    Meanwhile, Brandl, the college professor, just shakes his head — and his finger — at the speculators, many of whom were college students skipping class to stand in line.

    If someone stood in line for 100 hours and turns a $600 profit, they just earned $6 an hour, barely more than minimum wage, he noted. Figure that many of them paid with a credit card that will charge interest in the high teens, and the profit margin is even slimmer.

    Plus there are other costs for students. If they skipped class, they'll do worse on exams so their grades will drop, and they'll have a harder time getting a job when they graduate. They just substituted their futures for $6 an hour, he said.

    "It's a ridiculous waste of time," Brandl said. "We have a moral responsibility to shame these people."
     
  20. VesceySux

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    Okay, that's pretty random. I'm taking Brandl's macroecon class right now. Maybe I should bug him about the PS3 next week in class. :)
     

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