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The Official "No More Bounce Pass From Luther Head to Yao" Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jpsamhyz, Apr 24, 2007.

  1. sohrab

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    i agree, everytime i see this pass i get pissed off. why doesnt JVG say something?
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Luther is being exposed as a regular season only guy, he is running into the same problem Okur is running into and that is he is a one dimensional player.

    And in the playoffs teams will take away that one dimension.

    Luther can't dribble, can't pass, and can't defend.....he is being seriously exposed.

    DD
     
  3. BucMan55

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    Think you misunderstood, I meant closer to head but not so that is bounces up and is on the way down before it gets to Yao. Like I said, and you said to a certain extent, a BETTER bounce pass. If the lob gets picked though, thats on Yao, and I have seen plenty of those get picked.
     
  4. texanskan

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    yep, next season either Spanoulis or Mike James will be getting these minutes. As of right now we still have enough to win and Luther will still have a nice game or two this postseason because he really CAN shoot the ball.
     
  5. jpsamhyz

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    The biggest problem right now is his basketball IQ. He has too be smarter. Steve Kerr was also a one dimensional player with far less athleticism. But he didn't do silly things on the court, and got a handful of rings.
     
  6. SuperMarioBro

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    Wow... that is so... so very wrong. Luther has been playing very solid all around basketball lately, grabbing a handful of rebounds, and dishing some assists.

    He's not the greatest ball-handler/passer, but he doesn't make that many mistakes with the ball, and he knows his limits better than any role player on the team (maybe even Battier). Trash? Low basketball IQ? Dear god... Please watch more than three games a year.

    Luther is an valuable asset to this team. And 10-15 minutes if he's making his shots? You're out of your damn mind... If he's hitting 3's, he needs to get like 25-30 minutes.
     
  7. verse

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    this is a function of having undersized guards and, as such, is not limited to luther head. it's rafer and jl3, too. if you remember horry as a rocket, he was - undeniably - the best post entry passer on the team. his height and length allowed him to see over the defender and make an accurate lob/entry pass. luther/jl3/rafer do not have that ability versus a taller defender.

    OTOH, tmac is passing over a shrimp. with a 7 inch height disparity, it's very easy to make proper entry passes. imo, this is one of the issues we will have to address in the offseason - getting bigger (and better) at the guard spot. in the meantime, rafer/luther/jl3 will have to gain separation from the defenders by showing the threat of dribble drive penetration,\. this will keep the defender on his heels, out of our guards' jocks, and make entry passes less contested.
     
  8. SuperMarioBro

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    And why is DaDakota always such a limitless Luther hater?

    Regular season players do not lead the league in 4th quarter 3-pters and 4th quarter 3-pt %. He's gotten off to a rough start in his first two playoff games EVER... and it's not like he's the only one who's shooting poorly from the field...
     
  9. Mordo

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    Yes. Ban the bounce pass.

    His 3pt% should come back though. He averaged 44.4% against Utah. He is due for bounceback game, just as Boozer was due for one.
     
  10. Mordo

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    He hates young players, except for rookies.
     
  11. verse

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    well said. the only thing you forgot is that his defense is above average, as well. especially compared to rafer. then again, rafer's a collander.
     
  12. Like A Breath

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    Shane Battier throws a good velocity pass to Yao's chest that is a very effective and catchable ball. He needs to show Luther how it's done.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    LOL - I love how everyone calls people a hater these days...it is soooooo 90s....

    Being a realist is what life is all about......Luther's game is limited, and he is being asked to do things he is not competent at....like passing, or creating off the dribble.

    Luther CAN shoot the ball, but teams know that and are going to shut down the one thing he is good at, and he will need to resort to other skills to make an impact.

    Right now, he doesn't have those other skills.

    DD
     
  14. YallMean

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    Battier is the best passer to Yao on this team. He really knows when and how to throw the ball to Yao.

    Also, why did we run away from reposting Yao? I havent seen it for a long time.
     
  15. heypartner

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    umm, the whole point is we WANT the other team to attempt to shut down "the one thing he is good at." It is called getting the defense to guard Luther so Yao has more room.

    He is not an important scorer for this team this year as much as he is an important *threat*. All we need is Luther to be a threat who requires the other team to try to run out to him and shut him down.

    you just got this all wrong DaDakota. You are making a point about shutting down Luther is possible but are not understanding how trying to shut down Luther gives Yao more room to operate.

    btw: getting on my plane to Italy now. You guys root hard for the Rockets on Thursday, ok. I went ahead and bought a slingblade....thx for the offer dd.
     
  16. weslinder

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    One game, Luther's going to get 30 points on 12/15, with at least 5 threes and several successful drives. I expect the threadstarter to start an "I want to sex Head." thread.
     
  17. texanskan

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    Hey buddy, I watch EVERY SINGLE GAME no matter how good the team is. I have season tickets and I GO TO EVERY GAME even the preseason games.

    Luther makes a ton of mental errors, can not dribble and is a below average passer.

    He can shoot and when he is hot he is an assasin, which is great because open shots can be had with Yao and T-Mac.

    So if Head is hitting shots yes he should get time maybe even 20 min but if he is not he hurts us more than he helps us. Head is a one trick pony. If you don't know that watch the games closer. I will give Luther a ton of love if he gets his act together.
     
  18. Jacquescas

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    Yao has gotten alot better at putting it on the floor, the bounce pass from luther is horrendous more poor decision making skills, unless he bounces it 8 feet high
     
  19. EssTooKayTD

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    I know, I was just poking fun at the caps and the constant complaining going on here. I suppose I haven't noted the bounce passes as a #1 priority problem to address (not like I'm a coach, haha). I've been more concerned about our shooting percentage as a team lately. Our turnovers are low, so I can live with it...for now :p
     
  20. JuNx

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    He should throw the pass to his chest.... sure but bashing Head's game its stupid just because he hasn't made 1000000 threes in these games so far.
     

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