KPJ learned the PG role like Tate learned how to be a 3 point shooter. Dude isn't a PG and will never be a PG. He's a slasher/SG. His ceiling is probably Jamal Crawford. He's not a savant like Harden where he can play PG either. I wouldn't mind running him at the SF spot and having Schroeder run the offense next year. Schroeder/Green/Porter/Smith/Sengun. Then in stints you let him play PG when the real PG has to rest. That will allow him to develop his PG skills as well the right way instead of the way we have been. Green (and Porters) penetration open up everything on this team so surrounding them with non shooters like KJ and Tate is always going to be problematic. This team needs to draft a 3 and D with that Nets pick. I love Tate but he's basically worse PJ Tucker.
Eh. If he simply ups his ppg couldn't he just b a score first pg? Retaining Schroder? That would require us to signing him to a contract since he's a free agent. I think he wants a big contract. Can your suggestion work with Wall if we aren't gonna get rid of him? I honestly can see a score first pg work w/ our new big from draft. Unless the stats say otherwise.
Wow, just Wow. Is Jrue Holiday a true point guard? They won the championship last year. The true point guard in CP3 lost. You know was said by Ricky Bobby's friend. 2nd place is just the last loser. What if, and hear me out, what if we have Porter and Green and Josh Christopher and add say a........JADEN IVEY?!? Could we have 4 combo guards destroying teams if we supply them with 3-point shooters around them? Since Porter can guard SF''s; It's feasible that the 3-headed monster of Green-Ivey-Porter could attack relentlessly! Do you know how much pressure that would put on a defense? Nets have Kyrie/Durant, Suns have CP3/Booker, Bucks have Holiday/Giannis/Middleton, Sixers have Embiid/Harden, Lakers have LeBron/AD, Utah have Mitchell/Conley, Nuggets have Jokic and Jamaal Murray coming.......Rockets could have.....wait for it...wait for.... any two of Green/Porter then sub in Ivey/Christopher or any combination your little heart desires. We are going to score 124 points to 130 point per night. With no POINT GUARD.....I KNOW....ITS CRAZY, RIGHT?!? We can only imagine. 4 against 2 good scorers on most nights. Yeah Gobert helps and Mikal Bridges has turned it on lately or Bobby Porter helps Milwaukee, but that's where we need Sengun, Tate, Kenyon, Garuba as Mathews to kick it up a notch over the off season. So if Porter/Green/Christopher can run the PnR and hit the roll man or cutters.... What the h**l are we crying about?
https://theathletic.com/3257339/2022/04/19/rockets-offseason-jalen-green-wall/ If history serves a purpose, Houston’s front office typically doesn’t do extensions before it absolutely has to. At this juncture, Porter’s representation hasn’t approached Houston to initiate extension discussions, The Athletic understands. At the same time, the Rockets’ offseason is barely two weeks old. Players need time to get away, decompress and recover after a long, grueling season. Given how the Rockets wound up with Porter — trading him for a protected second-round pick and his overall production — it’s unlikely they view him as a max- or supermax-type player. What he is, however, is a talented scoring guard with underrated playmaking ability who is still growing up and having to mature. All of those things play a part in extension negotiations. The Rockets could offer him a team-friendly deal now and see if something gets done, or alternatively, Porter could decline and decide to bet on himself and having an improved 2022-23 season. But make no mistake, Houston is where Porter wants to be. He’s talked at length about building something meaningful with Green, his affinity for Silas and lead assistant John Lucas, and the Rockets as a community. A betting party of one says Porter’s number — whether it comes this summer or next — ends up in the range of four years and $40 million to $50 million. Regarding Tate, I’d give it a range of anywhere from $36 million to $48 million.
People keep coming up with ever-more creative ways to gently say something so if it comes out to be correct they can go "see, told ya!" and if it doesn't they can say "well I never flat-out said it would happen..."
If we draft Jabari or Chet, we get our 3 and D with the first pick, do we need to go that route with the Nets pick? It looks like most of the guys in that range are missing either the 3 or the D. I think I would go with the shooter there over the defensive player.
Next year we should be starting KPJ, Green, Jaygup interchangeable at PG, SG, SF, if we get Parker or Chet. If we don't get one of those two we have to go Ivey or Sharp and use the 17th and other assets to get a vet PF like Myles Turner. If we do this the 2023 pick won't be worth much since we will at least be a play-in team. If we get Chet or Parker we should try to package 17 and assets to move up and grab Sharpe. Again the 2023 frp probably won't get you into potential superstar territory so you should take the swing that Sharpe is that kind of guy and the SF of the future.
"It will b Sengun who will lead our Rockets to greatness. He will go down in history as one of the greatest Turkish player to grace the court/Rockets and have his number hanging on the raft. ROY, MIP, MVP all possible. -DatRocketFan 10/9/21" LMAO. Sit your ass down somewhere
I don't love KPJ's game, especially at PG next to Jalen, but if you are able to sign him to an extension around the non-taxpayer MLE (projected to be 4yr/$45M in 2023-2024), you do that in a heartbeat. That's Daniel Theis-level money. Heck, even Jalen Green's affordable rookie deal is a 4-year, $40M contract. At that level, he doesn't even have to start to be worth it; I seriously hope that he eventually transitions into an Eric Gordon-style sixth man role where he gets to come on and absolutely destroy bench units as the primary scorer/ball-handler. Ironically, I'm much more skeptical on giving Jae'Sean Tate a similar deal, even though I'm a bigger fan of how he plays. I do think we get some massive rose-colored glasses over his play, because he's one of the only guys who gives a crap on defense on this team, and is always giving maximum effort on the court. It kind of reminds me of Chuck Hayes back in the day; the Chuckwagon was my favorite player on those post-Yao treadmill teams, and one of my favorite players of all time. I was so psyched that he finally got paid in Sacramento, but I was also thrilled that the Rockets didn't give him that contract, as well.
I talked about this before when there was a "what contact do you think KPJ deserve" thread, I said 10m a year for four years would be a steal.
Harden is HOF special. Comparing any PG to a player of Harden's caliber is silly. If you are using current Harden as the standard then you are setting yourself up for heartbreak. Not just with KPJ but any PG.
The only way KPJ has any value is if he is signed and proven, we almost have to sign him to an extension prolly 3 years with a Team option for year 4..... That way, he becomes tradeable - right now, he isn't .....because of his history and his short contract...... DD
If we’re scoring “124-130 points a night”, then our opponent is scoring 125-131 points. We need big men with skill and defense. Smith, Banchero and Chet all answer the mail there. If all three are gone then obviously Ivey is the choice.
I wouldn’t say Ivey is obviously the choice. In that scenario, you might do well to let someone who wants Ivey to make an offer to move up, as long as you are still in the range to take Murray or Eason.
FIFY. Don't know why people are focusing so much on guards and bigs. The last great Rocket team had really good wing depth.
Yes, which is why I have Jabari, Chet, Banchero in my top 4 on the Big Board. But you can't deny Garuba was chosen last season for that role (big who protects the rim) and a player like Kessler or Mark Williams could flip the bill as screener slash Roll Man in PnR. You have to understand the recipe for success that Silas once had in Dallas. Assuming the tanking is over, Silas wants to recreate that formula. Silas is still the Head Coach. If you look at the Mavs numbers in 19/20: they individuals scored high in NBA percentile in PnR (Ball Handler), PnR (Roll Man), Cutters and Screeners. Not just one player at each category "play-type" multiple Ball Handlers and multiple Roll Men and multiple screeners and multitude of cutters/slashers. Could the Rockets trade for a Nerlens Noel screener lob threat that has a DFG% something like 54% at 6 ft or less? He is tired of the Knicks and Thibs. Free up cash of bringing in Mitchell Robinson in free agency? Myles Turner? Rockets have options, not just in moving Wall, Eric Gordon, Nwaba; but also Nix, Mathews, Tate, KPj, Garuba.....who knows? I'm just saying Green, Porter, Ivey, Josh Christopher would kill teams under the right circumstances. Better attackers than Hardaway Jr, Brunson, Barea, Trey Burke and Seth Curry. Depending how good Jalen Green and Ivey can be combined....better than Doncic
