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The Official Adrian Peterson Countdown

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by lexled, Sep 25, 2006.

  1. No Worries

    No Worries Contributing Member

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    We need to get players who will make the Pro Bowlls for a long career. Bruce Smith. Reggie White.

    Or IOW we need to permanently fill a hole. I consider the entier defense at this point a 11 man hole.
     
  2. robbie380

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    did you read what i wrote? i said we need to draft peterson. the worst thing possible would be to draft a wide receiver. or maybe i misunderstood...maybe you were just saying what the texans will end up doing rather than what you think they should do.
     
  3. leebigez

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    Why do they have to take Peterson? I really do like Peterson a lot mure than the greatest back ever bush, but I think this team has alot of holes on defense. I really think that Clements from buffalo should be free agent target #1, going after Michael Turner from sd would be 2nd and the best safety in Merriweather should be 3rd.
     
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    well obviously we need to be more open to trading down than we were this past year, but i think peterson is certainly a game changing every down back. this team does have a ton of holes but backs like peterson are rarely availible and having a running game would open up the offense very quickly. i think we are better served by going after defense on rounds 2, 3, and 4 rather than passing on peterson.

    also, i can understand why kubiak passed on bush since he is not an every down back and has questionable blocking skills. peterson can do both of those things that bush couldn't so that excuse is gone. the texans must draft peterson if he is there. if he isn't then we need to trade down.
     
  5. jgreen91

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    Have you seen our running backs this year?
     
  6. Rocketman95

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    Have you seen our defense? They're both absolutely terrible.
     
  7. MadMax

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    i'm concerned with peterson's health.
     
  8. leebigez

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    Just be a student and historian of the game. Look at the top 10 rushers this yr and tell me how many are top 10 draft picks. Then look at the history of the coach and where he came from.

    ATT YDS AVG YPG LNG TD FUM LST
    1 Tiki Barber RB, NYG 102 533 5.2 106.6 29 0 1 0
    2 S. Jackson RB, STL 133 521 3.9 86.8 37 2 0 0
    3 Frank Gore RB, SFO 112 520 4.6 86.7 32 3 4 4
    4 Warrick Dunn RB, ATL 96 511 5.3 102.2 90 1 1 0
    5 W. McGahee RB, BUF 130 505 3.9 84.2 32 1 1 0
    6 Julius Jones RB, DAL 108 494 4.6 98.8 33 2 1 1
    7 Tatum Bell RB, DEN 100 470 4.7 94.0 39 1 1 1
    8 D. McAllister RB, NOR 91 444 4.9 74.0 57 4 2 1
    9 Willie Parker RB, PIT 106 434 4.1 86.8 32 5 1 0
    10 D. Foster RB, CAR 114 431 3.8 71.8 43 1 2 2
    11 Thomas Jones RB, CHI 116 428 3.7 71.3 29 2 0 0
    12 C. Taylor RB, MIN 111 421 3.8 84.2 33 1 0 0
    13 L. Tomlinson RB, SDG 110 407 3.7 81.4 58 7 1 0
    14 Ronnie Brown RB, MIA 107 405 3.8 67.5 27 4 2 1
    Rudi Johnson RB, CIN

    The only top 10 picks in that list is LT and ronnie Brown. So i ask again, why do i have to draft peterson?
     
  9. Mr. Clutch

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    Couldn't you do this for any position? Look up QBs, WRs, defensive players, etc. Bottom line is you consider who is the best player and what your needs are.
     
  10. leebigez

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    I think in the patheon of players, the hardest players to find are qb,lt,re,cb. Its not just this yr, but for the most part, look at the best defensive teams and the rde is the a 1st rd pick and the cb. On successful offenses the qb and lt are the most important players. I'm not just talking about taking the best player i'm talking about building a team. You could make the argument about o lineman because most o-line coaches dont want high draft picks. If you look at the top 10 offenses last yr only edge and lt were top 5 picks. I'm just saying that even if the texans are top 7 drafting, Kubiak probably will pass and let his system take care of the rb while taking the talent for the others.
     
  11. leebigez

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    Let me take the top 10 qb's on the infamous rating.

    NAME COM ATT PCT YDS YPA LNG TD TD% INT INT% SK SYD RAT
    1 D. McNabb QB, PHI 122 208 58.7 1849 8.89 87 13 6.3 2 1.0 15.0 115 104.8
    2 P. Rivers QB, SDG 99 144 68.8 1064 7.39 57 7 4.9 2 1.4 5.0 31 100.6
    3 M. Bulger QB, STL 128 208 61.5 1619 7.78 67 10 4.8 1 .5 19.0 137 99.8
    4 P. Manning QB, IND 106 171 62.0 1278 7.47 41 8 4.7 2 1.2 7.0 49 95.6
    5 David Carr QB, HOU 96 138 69.6 993 7.20 53 7 5.1 4 2.9 15.0 92 94.9
    6 D. Huard QB, KAN 89 136 65.4 931 6.85 78 5 3.7 1 .7 8.0 58 94.3
    7 Drew Brees QB, NOR 138 207 66.7 1509 7.29 86 8 3.9 4 1.9 6.0 37 92.8
    8 E. Manning QB, NYG 115 176 65.3 1329 7.55 46 11 6.3 7 4.0 11.0 79 92.3
    9 C. Pennington QB, NYJ 109 168 64.9 1261 7.51 71 8 4.8 5 3.0 16.0 85 90.9
    10 C. Palmer QB, CIN 99 157 63.1 1178 7.50 51 7 4.5 4 2.5 17.0 118 90.1

    Bulger was a4th,huard was a 4th and brees a 2nd. Both mannings,mcnabb,carr,palmer and Rivers were all top 4.Chad was also a 1st rd pick.
     
  12. ima_drummer2k

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    Me too.

    How come no one is talking about Garrett Wolfe from Northern Ill? The guy is averaging 7.9 yards per carry, and almost 200 yards per game. 13 TD's this year in 7 games. :eek:

    I'll take him over AP.
     
  13. robbie380

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    fine i guess we should start looking for another tom brady in the 6th round too.

    look at the last 10 drafts. the backs that were taken in the top 10 all turned out to be pretty damn good, except for enis. ricky was a head case but those issues didn't really surface until the NFL and he still had the talent to dominate. my point being is that when RBs were taken in the top 10 it was for good reason...because they were bad asses.
     
  14. robbie380

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    wolfe is really good, but AP is a monster IMHO. wolfe also is nowhere near as big as AP. you are looking at 5'7 180 compared to 6'2 220.
     
  15. leebigez

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    I'm not saying wait till the 6th rd, but similar to what Minny did in getting Taylor i think the Texans can do the same. Thats why i like Turner. he's 5'10 about 230 and is a very tough runner. He can turn the corner and has limited carries and seems to be a more proven guy. He can get a respectable contract more so than the rookie and unless sd put the high tender on him, he can be had for a 3rd or 4th. Another guy who i was surprised the texans didn't get was Davenport. he's big,strong and physical with good speed to the outside. With Sherman being in Houston i was surprised Najeh didn't get a contract instead of Gado.
     
  16. ima_drummer2k

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    Wow, I didn't realize he was that small. But under Kubiak's system, you don't really need to be that big. Of course, we need some O-linemen who can actually block before ANY RB will excell in this system.
     
  17. hatemavs4life

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    D-Ryans is looking real good. He may even make Travis Johnson look like an NFL caliber Nose Tackle oh wait my bad ... he's not a miracle worker. :D

    The secondary is resembling a sh*t sandwich. :rolleyes:
     

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