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The offical Trump Tariff thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 1, 2025.

  1. Nook

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    Trump is a polarizing President - and if a Democrat wins the election, they will be expected to undo a lot of what Trump has done (for good or bad). In order to accomplish that, they will most likely reply on the same means Trump did. Just how it often works.

    Most Democrats don’t really give a **** about Garcia - he will be deported once he is brought back most likely, just not to El Salvador. The issue is the President completely walking all over the SCOTUS Constitutional powers. The public DOES care about that. Having said that, the Democrats need to realize that immigration reform and the idea of a border matters to voters. Also I am sure Trump is glad to have immigration issues in the news drowning out his stupid trade policies and failings…. If MAGA dies it won’t be over the border or social programs, it will be the economy.
     
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  2. Nook

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    What an embarrassment.
     
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  3. Rileydog

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    Trump is even becoming Harvard’s b-tch. They send Harvard a ridiculously overly broad demand letter. Then reports are it was sent by mistake. Then denies it was sent by mistake. Harvard says screw you and files suit. Now Trump administration wants to talk deal, and Harvard is ignoring them. Exactly like Trumps trade war nonsense.
     
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  4. FrontRunner

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    I have no doubt Trump would capitulate to China in a millisecond if they ever attempted to take Taiwan, but I also think he would attempt to take Greenland (and risk Russia doing as they please in Europe). Hell, he probably fantasizes about that sort of ****.

    His obsession with Greenland could actually end up deterring China from taking Taiwan. (I could easily be wrong and hope to never know one way or the other.)
     
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  5. Nook

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    Yes - I don’t think Chinese leadership will ever trust Trump, he is too erratic. However I do believe that Trump would gladly look the other way on Taiwan and even Japan if China would remove their involvement in Panama, Mexico and Greenland so that the USA could take Greenland and strangle Mexico and Panama into doing what Trump wants… Mexico is a huge part of what Trump and Miller want to do going forward, from battling the cartel to cutting off refugees going through Mexico, to having greater control over the natural resources in Mexico and desires to have a military base in Mexico.
     
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  6. astros123

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    Why wouldnt Trump just make a deal with China where they take Taiwan and he takes over Greenland? China just called Trumps bluff on this trade war nonsense and he folded within a week. He embarrased himself on the global stage. The hardcore MAGA on these forums were claiming for months how we need to keep the China tariffs cuz they stole our jobs. Suddenly they'll do a 180 cuz they have no shame or values

    China will 1000% invade Taiwan within Trumps Term. Id be willing to wager anyone any sum of money. China sees Trump for who he is.

    Kevin Rudd who was the ex PM of Australia and ambassador to USA practically said this same thing. The CCP knows Trump is a transactional person and he doesnt have the spine to absorb bad coverage for a long time. Its why he held up charts of stock market rallies during the covid lockdown cuz he needs positive attention. Trump would sell out Taiwan in a minute if it meant he can get a better positive headline elsewhere (panama canal or Greenland).

    We're witnessing the last years of a independent Taiwan. Anyone who hasnt visited needs to go visit and see it before it goes to the CCP
     
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  7. FrontRunner

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    You could well be right. I wouldn't bet on Trump doing anything remotely intelligent or ethical. At least intentionally, that's for sure.

    I do hope your'e wrong, but at some point China will flex their might...

    Thankfully we have a leader like Trump who sees four or five moves ahead of his opponents! :rolleyes:
     
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  8. Kemahkeith

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    Stopped in to throw some gas on the fire.
    Why do y'all think Trump backed off of the China Tariffs?

    Saw the economy decaying before his eyes?
    Someone got in his ear and talked some sense into him?
    Realized Ping was in for the duration?
    He was too impatient for the long game?

    I personally think that Trump is an I want an Oompa Loompa now kind of guy,
    If he does not get the result he wants immediately, he moves on to the next thing he thinks he can solve in a day.
    Very ADD type of behavior.
     
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  10. Nook

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    He likely did not really think it out and assumed that China would make some half hearted effort to appease him and he would then claim economic victory. The reality is that China likely would have done just that, except Trump has proven to be so erratic on this very issue that the Chinese wisely realized that any effort to appease him would not work, as he would continue to go to the well.

    The reality is that the USA and PRC are extremely connected economically, they both need each other at this point. It would take decades to eliminate their economic relationship.

    Lucky for Trump, the media and American public are too busy wondering what will happen with the SCOTUS and not on the fact that Trump bent over.
     
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    stuff like this is why the dumbass buffoon is caving





     
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  12. Invisible Fan

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    The list is endless.

    He didn't have the cards. He believed in a trade expert like Navarro who doesn't even speak Chinese. They've known each other for more than ten years while dealing with china problem and they never bothered to read briefings by real experts.

    We think they need our hitech chips but we need their middle to low tech chips more.

    We also need their ~15+ minerals where they mostly own 85-90% monopolies in each each of the 4 stages of delivery. Each stage takes around 5-10 years with a heavy toll on the environment,

    Hedge funds are wound up in a 1 trillion dollar basis trade with treasuries. They're using leverage ratios from 50 to 100:1, so any hikes in the treasury rates will cause them to lose bigly and dump good to pay for bad.

    Bassent and Miran talked a lot about Sequencing but how the events played out bore no semblance of planning, more like a spoiled rich kid wanna wanna wanna Tarrifs NAO with a gang of cronies incoherently whispering in his ears of what to do.

    Meanwhile, we're trying to reduce treasury rate to stem interest payments on our budget. We're on track to pay more this year on the overall budget than during the covid years because of higher rates. It's more or less...wrecking our balance sheets.

    Btw, China isn't in a position to invade anytime soon. They don't think like impulsive westerners who yolo into something like a videogame.
     
  13. No Worries

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    A common lament among Trump supporters.
     
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  14. No Worries

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    I thought the following was completely damning of Trump and his lack of a detailed tariff plan.

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    But then I remembered
    We are just not seeing Trump's genius.


     
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    According to Axios, the CEOs of Home Depot, Target, and Walmart were blunt about the impacts the massive “Liberation Day” tariffs he's placed on China and other major U.S. trade partners will have on consumers and the economy.

    "The big box CEOs flat out told him [Trump] the prices aren't going up, they're steady right now, but they will go up.. And this wasn't about food. But he was told that shelves will be empty," an unnamed Trump administration official told Axios.

    The warning must have really spooked Trump, as Tuesday night he said that he is likely to lower the punishing 145% tariffs he's levied on Chinese imports—though he said the tariffs "won't be zero."
     
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  17. zjcblord21

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    China has learned their lesson from his first term and know that he is an extortionist. There is an old saying in China refers to The Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period in Chinese history (907-979):

    "One day five cities could be ceded, and on the next day, another ten cities could be surrendered just so that a certain person would have a single night of good sleep. But in waking up and looking around, Qin troops again were approaching.”

    Chinese media/experts have been quoting this old saying a lot recently to show that they understand it is not wise to back down in the tariff war.
     
  18. adoo

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    my 2 cents,

    Xi has learned from Putin insofar as using the 78-yr child as a useful idiot​
     
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    You conservatives have to make it seem like Dems care about Garcia so much in order to distract from Trump back pedaling on tariffs and other dumb ****.
     
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  20. dmoneybangbang

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    Like it or not, the Patriot Act was pushed legally through Congress and approved through the courts,

    Meanwhile, your side is giving up Congressional and Judicial power to appease Fat King Trump.

    I understand you got your Twitter marching orders to distract and obfuscate.
     
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