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The offical Trump Tariff thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 1, 2025.

  1. pirc1

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    There will be a world -MAGA(1) soon, best isolation president ever.
     
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  2. Nook

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    You aren’t bringing back “great manufacturing jobs to America”. It isn’t 1950 - that time has passed.

    If you insist on bringing manufacturing jobs to America, they will not be great paying and the cost of goods will go up greatly - causing most Americans to have less buying power and less wealth.

    The US has benefitted greatly from free trade. Also - Trump is responsible for the trade agreements with Mexico and Canada. If they suck, that is because he negotiated them poorly.

    Preaching to start buying “less cheap stuff for quality”. That is funny, I wouldn’t assume the quality will be any higher - but prices certainly will.
     
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  3. Deckard

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    @strosb4bros, whoever he really is, clearly doesn't know himself.
     
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  4. wompwomp

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    Trump is not stupid but hes not particularly bright either. Combined with his lack of curiosity about anything and misplaced ego, he is a mishmash of painfully average. His superpower is he understands how to manipulate the media and is shameless. In another timeline, his crowning achievement would be winning salesman of the month at some used car lot once or twice a year. But he was born into millions so here we are....
     
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    https://www.reuters.com/business/he...p-seeks-lure-pharma-investment-us-2025-04-03/
    Small-town Ireland nervous as Trump seeks to lure pharma investment to US
    • Trump has singled out Ireland for "luring away" US pharma
    • Ireland says U.S. tariffs most serious challenge it faces
    • Pharma companies are major employers and payers of tax
    Ireland has become a Delaware of sorts, where tech companies like Meta have incorporated there.

    Prob should close that loophole soon if we want American listed companies to pay their fair share of taxes to Uncle Sam.

    P.S. the recent spending bill Congress passed still encourages companies to invest more heavily overseas.
     
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  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    This is where Trump is a complete idiot.

    He's going to **** up the whole world because somehow he got it into his mind that tariffs create jobs. No one around him is able to puncture his bubble of stupidity to tell him otherwise. And more MAGAns would rather toe the line then tell the emperor he has no clothes.
     
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    Seems to me Trump is doing something right
     
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    This guy is right
     
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    So this is about it, it seems. Mexico and Canada was just testing the waters
     
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  13. pirc1

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    LOL.
     
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  14. ThatBoyNick

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    Link to him saying it will destroy America?

    I looked it up and can't find anything.
     
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  15. strosb4bros

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    uhh Holy #^$#. You didn't spend a single sentence of that on why. Instead we got 6 paragraphs on prehearsed talking points and trump is bad orange man. You are drowning in emotion and not going to be taken seriously by adults.

    Take the time to calm down and read this page. It's alot of big words, but you should be able to finish it in 5 minutes. This isn't some secret billionaire scheme ... it's a genuine attempt at giving some of the benefits of American innovation and prosperity to the worker.

    We focus in particular on the parallel trends of globalization and financialization, which have pulled capital toward activities that generate profit while undermining the nation’s prosperity. Globalization severed the bond between capital and labor, so that growth and profit no longer depended on investment in a domestic workforce. Shareholders in multinational corporations saw their wealth skyrocket while workers saw their wages stagnate. Entire industries shifted overseas, decimating communities, reducing productive capacity, and slowing innovation. Financialization severed the bond between capital and the real economy altogether, offering huge paydays for producing nothing of value. Capital and talent surged toward Wall Street, the financial sector metastasized, and real investment declined.

    Productive Markets | American Compass
     
  16. Nook

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    Nope - if Trump was worried about the deficit he wouldn’t give trillions of dollars in tax cuts to the absolutely wealthiest Americans. He also wouldn’t have a budget increasing spending.
     
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    The conservative approach to this is pretty simple. When Apple has $180 billion in profits a year due to slave labor in China, that is only passed on the top 1% of earners (their employees). What if ... there was a way for some of that to go to the middle class? To the bottom 90? There always was, but corporate lobbyists wanted their slave labor access. Many DEMOCRATS have pointed this out in the past and continued to do so until Trump started talking about it.

    In America, the top 10% does all the spending. So if they have to spend a bit more to shore up the middle, it's a historically dem way of thinking. What we've seen is Republicans shift to a party of the people but their answer isn't endless welfare and handouts.. it's domestic opportunity.
     
  18. Rileydog

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    Have companies started committing billions to building new manufacturing plants yet?

    Or is that supposed to happen after we get reciprocal tariffs from foreign countries?

    Or is that supposed to happen after Trump “negotiates” lower “tariffs” from foreign countries, and then removes his new tariffs?

    Or does it happen when Trump decides tariffs should go back up?

    I can’t understand why companies aren’t able to commit to building manufacturing plants in America yet.
     
  19. AleksandarN

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    So he wants to increase taxes. To payoff the debt
     
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    @adoo has tried explaining this to you but we did see great paying manufacturing come back during Biden term. We created over 100k manufacturing jobs and all of them paid prevailing wages bcz it was in the legislation. If any companies wanted government subsidies they had to provide above average wages for the industry.

    Theres ways to bring back good paying manufacturing jobs and targeted subsidies is the way to go. These MAGA @El_Conquistador @strosb4bros should do some reading

    No company is going to make that sort of investment when they know trump is a lame duck POTUS. They will wait out the 4 years and hope a democrat wins in 2028 which they will after the economy tanks
     
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