Morey was at Rashard Lewis's doorstep offering the MLE. He got 120 million dollars instead. I think everybody would agree that signing Rashard Lewis for 120 million dollars is nothing short of absurd. But if you wouldn't want Rashard Lewis for the MLE, you're nuts. As for the the win totals of the Rockets vs the Raptors. It's not applicable. That Raptors team was horrible. Hedo flopped. So their second best player was Bargnani? I love Scola but Bosh is an obvious HUGE upgrade over him both offensively and defensively. (and yes, I'm of the opinion Bosh's defense is under-rated due to the fact he's surrounded by one of the weakest defensive lineups in basketball)
I see what you guys are saying. However we arent gonna get Bosh anyways. He is in Chicago still with his love of his life Wade having sweet sweet embraces. I know they are going to Chicago together to play butt buddies anyways. So I am board the Carmello train now. Bosh isnt coming here so lets move on. Him and Wade are in love so lets not get in the way of true love. LOL!
Not if Yao cant play a healthy 30-35 min a game. Would we not be a better team with Bosh and Yao in the middle against a team like LA? Why not give ourselves a better chance to win it all? Plus, Bosh gives us some flexibility in case Yao goes down or is limited.
then why not increase your chances with adding bosh... its NOT a given that bosh coming here means we have to give up ab, or scola, or ariza or that we couldn't sign lowry and a back up center... bud + hill are 2 young promising talents, battier and jeffries are valuable expiring contracts and the picks have as much value as you can make toronto believe they have.... adding bosh only helps our chances of winning if the right deal is made...
1. i dont think bosh is a SIGNIFICANT upgrade over scola. scolas numbers after the k-mart trade were phenomanol and more indicative of his value to this team then his numbers from the entire year (due to averages) 2. we'd be giving up waaaay 2 much- what happens to our deep bench? it becomes a lot thinner! every suggestion for the s&t seems to include brooks, bud, hill, even scola & k-mart have been thrown out as possbilities to go to toronto. i'm fine with picks because they're like drafting upside, never a sure thing. so i say no to bosh, unless DM can trade rape the raptors! jst my 2cents, u can flame the newbie now
I swear these two guys are gay. Bosh and Wade. They have to be. its not thats its a bad thing its just unsettling how much they want to be together at all times. It kind of reminds me of boyfriend and girlfriend type situation. I wonder who the dominant one is in the realtionship?
Nobody has ever talked about Scola, Brooks, and Martin going to the Raptors in a trade...we're not gutting our whole team if a trade goes down. The trade will equal about 15-17 million in value, going from us to them...we have a couple expiring contracts...some young talent...and draft picks. I can guarantee that Brooks would also not be in the mix. And Martin makes too much, so the Raptors wouldnt take him. Basically, it will take draft picks, young talent (chase or hill or both) and expirings (Battier).
We are settling for Bosh because it's clear we cannot attain Wade or James, so with that said let's just go for a higher talent even if it means trading straight up with other teams that have them. One example is clearly N.O. and Paul, another would be Nuggets and Melo, another....Thunder and Durant etc... I would much rather have any of those three players than Chris Bosh and i agree with everything said about him up there. He's a soft Big, makes for noice and faces than what he truly does on the basketball court. I have a friend who played with him in Houston prior to his first year of college and said the funniest things about him such as (he would ask my friend to play easy on him so he wouldnt look bad in front of college scouts, also to not place his elbow on Bosh's back down low on the block because he bruised easily) among other things LOL. I honestly would prefer 10 other FA's this summer than Bosh, ex: James, Wade, Johnson, Lee, Gay, Stoudemire, Nowitsky, Boozer, Pierce, or Ginobili (yes i know some have been signed already), but hell trade for any of these as opposed to Bosh. That's my take, so "take it or leave it"
The same was said of Pau Gasol. Dude never won a single playoff game. Now he's classified as one of the best big men in the NBA.
You honestly think he can bring down boards like that and be scared about getting a bruise?? You cant be soft and dominate like he does. Also, to get Melo, Durant, or Paul on our team, we would absolutely gut the team twice as much in a trade...as opposed to doing a S&T with Toronto for Bosh...and Durant would never get traded unless we give them Yao, Brooks, Hill, Martin, 2011 first round pick, 2012 Knicks pick, 2013 2nd round pick, and 2014 conditional pick. And Bosh is a much, much better player than half the guys you listed...and thats not just my opinion, but the opinion of about every single GM in the league.
I see your point but the LA height/length thing is overrated. Scola averaged 16 points and 9 rebounds in 34 mpg vs LA this season. He was hardly "useless" against LA. This team needs talent more than it needs height/length. If you fall into the trap of building your team to match up specifically against another team you fail. Ask Cleveland.
I'm just gonna say I trust Morey's player evaluation a lot more than the thread OPs. Besides, I bet Charles Jones is just hating because Bosh doesn't play like the big men in his days.
He plays with one of the greatest of all time. Yao is a solid and talented center,but he is hurt. Despite that,Yao has been able to get to the 2nd round in a tougher conference as compared to Bosh. Doesn't that tell you something about the latter? Some of Bosh's teams were trash,but at other times they were good enough to get to the Eastern Conference playoffs. We need a star,but we need toughness as well.
Some? All of Bosh's teams were trash. And we have solid, maybe even wonderful, role players that will take away any of his faults.
Toronto wants our young role players,and Bosh wants the max. He may not even want to come here,if he can get the max from another team.
He isnt coming here but if he did? He would be a great upgrade. They might be asking too much and end up getting very little in return from someone else anyways as part of their leverage against us threatening to take the other trade only because its close and its what Bosh really wants to go to. So in the end they are really screwing themselves. He is going to Chicago though or Miami because our deal didnt blow them away compaired to those deals and its what Bosh wants instead of thinking about they want. Which is cute for a team that has nothing. Hopefully he changes his mind on how that might be but Chicago is a real good team and if its Miami with Wade? Then we have nothing to worry about because that teams going nowhere without any depth.
