That depends on what Scola is going to ask for...but by the Rockets basically putting his name on any trade package, i wouldn't blame him for having a bit of hurt heart and ask for more... If it came to that point, where we have to decide on paying over for Scola or Bosh, then yes, i'd more than likely go with Bosh.
When you are basically saying that players arent worth max contracts and that typical household merchandises arent worth their price tags, you are making a point that objects, in general, are overpriced. When I bring up doctors or teachers, Im referring to the fact that a basketball player is obviously not worth the amount of money they actually receive. Its an obvious point...of course Wade shouldnt be paid 20 million a year to play basketball for 5 months out of the year...but thats not the issue at hand. When you come back with saying that Im trying to read minds or whatever...you're completely missing the whole point. Then you spew nonsense about reading comprehension...that's really lol-ish.
You're really reaching here.. Wade has been healthy for the past 2 seasons, while averaging almost 30, 5, and 7. Melo - Ya averaging 28 on 46% fg is super inconsistent. His age = max contract player all day. Dirk - was an absolute beast this past season. please watch more games before you compare him to declining players such as TD. Roy - great, great all-around player. injuries were a major concern this past season but I still say he is worth 15M a yr. Paul - you would "probably" give him the max? have you seen the kid play? age = another easy max contract player. same goes with D Will. Howard - "IF he had Scola's post game he'd easily be a Max player IMO".. well too bad not everyone can be the Dream. Beastly rebounder + 2 time defensive player of the year at such a young age = max money player with zero doubt. Edit: KD - highest ts% in the league, if I'm not mistaken. Nuff said. You want perfect players. Sorry, it just doesn't work this way. Gasol might not be worth max money to you, but 2 rings and 3 straight Finals appearances means he's worth every penny. What were the Lakers doing before the addition of Gasol? That's right - jack squat.
Indeed, which by most accounts, they are...which was my point. IMO having the money and in that position I wouldn't exactly be offering the Max... Now if we had no 4 to speak of, just some over the hill scrub basically putting up 4 and 3.5 night in and night out, then yes, I might be more pressed to offer Bosh the Max. The need then would be more inline with offering the Max. that's great, and once again i already stated morality is not, and was not an issue...virtues and traits and all that crap, is pointless to refer to when discussing this. I don't care what they pay or make...the OP asked if we wanted Bosh, not if the Morals of the community were in question. And I said no to Bosh based on the money being offered. Your post was hilarious, and outright pointless... I didn't miss your point, the problem was your point had nothing to do with what we were discussing. You still can't comprehend English...because you're still ranting about the same issues...
How does him stating his opinion means he thinks he knows more than the Rockets management? Good lord are we not allowed to have a different opinion than the Rockets Front Office now?
I think Bosh would help us. Those type of players are hard to get. Yao was luckily drafted because we became horrible enough to get the top draft pick. You have to be a horrible enough team to draft these guys, get lucky in free agency with others trying to over spend to get the same guy, or trade for them and give up half your team almost. Morey wants him and you its a front line that dwarfs Lakers our main Championship level opponents advantage on everyone else. He doesnt see that and maybe he goes somewhere else. I kind of want him but am growing weary of his attitude toward winning and who he wants to go insist on, places he wants to play because of glamour, money he has to have, and then still insisting on his best friends be with him too. To me that smacks of immaturity and insecurity and not being able to carry a team alone. However. I feel he would seriously upgrade us and maybe even prolongue Yaos career which i sthe most important thing because this Rockets organization insists on keeping Yao no matter how injury prone he gets. So? We dont need him but he would certainly be a luxury. He certainly needs us when looking at his criteria list of things he wants to accomplish on his list but he really wants his best friends more which he didnt include on that list but might have to sacrifice 30 million dollars to get to follow his friends. That does send me red flags up on what kind of person lives by that logic when he has more money and a better team situation, where he is the alpha male sitting somewhere else for him. Friends or all of my personal goals and needs? He is gonna choose friends and thats immature. So if we dont get him? I will also probably be relieved because we might have dodged a bullet on a Tmac 2 type of guy who isnt tough enough to make it on his own.
Then why did you bring up televisions and household merchandise...what the flying **** does that have to do with Bosh and the NBA? Your point had nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
So the "no-to-bosh" people believe: assume the trade is something like bosh for hill, bud, battier, jeffries + picks, which I think would be a good haul for Toronto...but anyway brooks/lowry martin/taylor ariza/? bosh/scola/patterson yao/hayes/? isn't good enough to beat the lakers next year? I just don't see how that team doesn't win it all. Yes there are 2 blank spots there, but that first 10 is pretty strong. Even average at best fill in guys will work.(BMiller or whoever) And even IF that's all we get out of it is ONE championship, and were financially crippled for the following 5 years, without any of our draft picks and young talent, is that not worth it? Sure this hurts your chances at multiple rings, but it doesn't mean it can't happen. There is way too much uncertainty in this league to not take the shot while you have it. Plus who's to say Morey can't just trade rape another team in a year or two to try something else if this doesn't work. I for one am glad Morey is trying things rather than standing pat.
I bet ya'll will sing another toon when Gasol and Odom are tipping rebounds to each other while Scola stands useless because he's just not that tall. Scola getting stuff by bynum and Gasol as well. WE NEED HEIGHT AND LENGTH!! If you really think Jordan Hill will become some defensive dominate big after 1 year you are clueless. Bosh commands a double team. NO ONE on this team right now comands a double team except Yao. It's a great move. Perfect trio. Yao and Bosh on the block and Martin on the outside Picking you apart from 3. Pick your poison.
And where did it get him? TMAC did the same at Orlando...by your logic he was well worth it also. what does his point production and FG % have to do with taking plays off or playing poorly in a game, and having your coach call you out in the news? Are implying Melo hasn't had maturity issues? wasn't accused by almost the entire organization for being a selfish player and taking plays off and pouting? LMAO That's right, on a team that didn't go anywhere...maybe you need more than a "stats" guy to make it work? And lets be real, he wasn't nearly as DOMINANT as he was when the hit the finals. The stats don't tell everything. that my be your opinion, I don't feel he is worth that. 8 to 10 a year. yes, probably...unlike you I don't just watch flash and glitz, I don't just care about nice stats, which btw is all you've posted...stats. Paul and Dwill are great PG's...but their respective teams are still stuck where they have been...they don't carry their teams like Kobe and Lebron can...so once again IMO not worth the max. So Scola has the "dream" offensive game, but you wanna get rid of him for Bosh? ROFLCOPTERS... Or once again are you just trying to get me to go along with your "ideology" of what it has to be... Where on earth did you get perfect players from? Jesus, some of you cannot for the life of me accept the fact other people don't agree. Is Gasol worth the Max, IMO no...was it worth the lakers to spend what they spent, sure. Why does my opinion of whether someone is worth the max or not, mean the player sucks? Or if i would spend that money if the situation called for it. Bosh is a want, not a need...therefore IMO not worth the max, if it was a dire need at the 4 then yes, i'd more than likely be willing to spend it.
Yeah like i said I wouldnt lose sleep if we didnt get Bosh but these height and length people are absolutely 100000% correct. We might not lose sleep over not getting him but we will be watching Gasol and Bynum and Odom making us pay for it. They will be going over our backs and tipping in shots over and over as a resulkt of not getting Bosh to add length next to Yao. Scola will be constantly outjumped by Odom the smallforward and then reached over by Gasol on the other side for the putback. So yeah some of you might not like the deal but you feel not making it. Even if we dont care. Lakers are gonna make us pay not having length. That I can gurantee. Bosh is good to have on our team if only for that reason alone and we can beat the Lakers with him. Lakers have two weakness we exploit. One is Yao is better than Bynum. Two is Brooks and Lowry tear them a new one all the time and thats why we give them trouble. Another one is our bench is more solid. If Bosh blanks out Gasol now? Even outperforms him? We beat the Lakers in a 7 game series. Thats why you get him. Not his skill set but his skill set along with the teams attributes of adding length by default of adding another long powerforward who can rebound against Gasol and other big powerforwards. Our main freaking team weakness. Giving up too many damn offensive rebounds.
Sometimes fans would make better moves than Morey and the Rockets. There are plenty of fans that wanted to get rid of McGrady two summers ago when we could have probably got Chauncey and Tayshaun for him. Or when there was a possible chance to get Kobe when he wanted out(even though I'm not sure if we ever really had a chance we some McGrady combination). Point is, sometimes fans opinions on ONE deal might be better than Morey's. It doesn't mean they could run the entire team better than he could.
the WORTH of Bosh? REMEMBER! Let me break it down for you in English...It's called a "comparison" I said Bosh IMO was not worth the Max, and Sammy said he was and then posted a crap load of OTHER players that were. So I posted a comparison of a crap load of OTHER things that were priced that people pay for, that are IMO over priced. I'm sure an internet legend such as yourself can see the basic comparison there... You know the spending of money like it's burning a hole in your pocket...when the item(TMAC)might not really be worth it(BOSH).
Bosh is Morey's number one target. He was at his door step at midnight on July 1st and he's been doing all in his power to acquire Bosh ever since. We have even read the comments from Morey about with the return of Yao and the addition of Bosh, he feels the Rockets are a 60+ win team. Now, we all know that Daryl Morey doesn't just pull numbers like that out of his behind. He has piles of data on Bosh. He has scouting reports. He has consulted Adelman and the coaching staff. And after doing all of his homework, he has concluded that Bosh is an ideal fit for the Rockets and can help us to be a 60 game winner. You, however, are saying you do not think Bosh would be good for the Rockets. Which implies that Daryl Morey is wrong and that you know better.
Not saying he wouldn't help the team at all...I like Bosh as a player, just not for the Max... I'm not gonna say we win or don't win 60 games, or win a championship, but yes IMO he helps the team...
It's beyond debatable as to whether Chauncey and Tayshaun is a better package than the two draft picks and Jordan Hill that we pried away from the Knicks for McGrady's stinking corpse. Personally, I think we're far better off with those assets.
