The Offical I dont want Chris Bosh Thread

It was an unusual circumstance, since Yao has never missed significant time for surgery or an injury before.

 

i think it all comes down to who we give up to get him. he's a good player no doubts about it but IMO not worth the max. we need shooters with Yao and i seriously doubt Bosh will fill in if Yao is out with another injury, he couldnt prove himself in Toronto what makes you think he can carry the Rockets if Yao goes out? And dont forget, we will be losing some key players if we decide to get him. i'd rather see how KMartin plays with Yao in the lineup. Besides, i got the feeling DM is using bosh as a smokescreen, so he can lower the value of a player he is really looking at. Look back at most of his signings and trades, he usually pulls out a surprise. let's wait and see what happens by end of the month

 

So now youve changed your stance...at first it was only 2 players that deserved max money and now you are including Howard, Paul, and Durant. And you wouldnt pay Wade? Wow. And Bosh is right there in that mix of talent as well...

And whats the point of saying that players arent worth the max but that you'd pay them? I think its quite obvious to everyone that athletes are grossly overpaid...but within the context of the NBA, when players like Amir Johnson or Adonyl Foyle are being shown the money, there are many players that should be worth the max. Is Rashard Lewis worth 20 million a year? Is Kirilenko worth 17 million a year? Michael Redd at 18 million? I can go on for days. When players are free agents and they are better than the aforementioned, they will command a higher salary. If you want to win in the NBA, you need to have a couple contracts on your team that are 15+ million...there is no two ways about it. You need max contract guys. And any player that is in the top 10-15 in the NBA should be receiving max contracts given the fact that mediocre players get 8 million a year. Thats just how the market is...if you understood that, then you'd have no problems with Wade or Bosh receiving max deals.

 

Some reasons to love Bosh as a Rocket.

1. Bosh is perfect for Adelman's system. He would be a great compliment to Yao with his face-up game and the ability to draw extra attention.

2. The Rockets should be able to light teams up from the outside with all the double teams coming down low.

3. Bosh would take the Rockets from good to potentially great. Great is a level that Scola cannot take them. Scola is a good player, but he's hit his ceiling.

4. Insurance. If Yao goes down, the team as currently composed + Bosh still has a chance to contend.

5. Buzz factor. Houston needs a reason to get excited about one of their teams. The Astros certainly aren't giving us anything to talk about.

6. Lastly, and most importantly, we actually have a shot at Chis Bosh. No other free agent that is reasonably attainable can make the Rockets contenders. Simple as that.

 

Some reasons not to love Bosh as a Rocket:

1) Max salary for six years

2) Lack of shot blocking

3) Average rebounding

4) Average defense

I agree that he can be a nice offensive threat and can help out if Yao goes down again. I'm not sure that is worth the max salary and I am not as convinced as some that the 4 is our weak area on the roster.

 

I have to say... the Bosh infatuation does remind me a bit of the McGrady blush. Whether it would turn out the same... we may or may not find out. I am not a big fan of chasing him. But if the Rockets do get him, I will probably learn to adjust. I have the same emotions for wanting to see Yao finally get a championship for all of his hard work and fine character as I did for Hakeem. I'd love to see Battier get a championship for the same reasons. I also have to say, sooner or later interest does fade. I was a huge Dallas Cowboy fan growing up (in the Tom Landry era). After he was terminated (I mean left of his own free will), the team was not the same. I followed them through the Jimmy Johnson years, but they are like most any other football team to me now; meaning I don't really watch football much anymore.

I became a die-hard Rockets fan when they drafted Hakeem. I was working at U of H when Phi Jamma Slamma happened. My fandom for the Rockets peaked during the '93-'94 and '94-'95 seasons. I have followed them through all of the subsequent "failures". The Francis/Mobley years, the McGrady/Yao years... and now? The handwriting is on the wall for me. My emotional ties are not as great as the Rudy/Hakeem years. I root and hope for a championship for the players who have suffered long NBA careers and played their hearts out. But it's just part of getting older for many. We've seen and felt what was in our hearts, the "glory days". They are to be cherished. But for some of us, they never get recreated.

Truly speaking, I'd rather not get Bosh and just add a Brad Miller type of talent. Chris bosh has already said he doesn't want to play center, so all of this talk about him help save Yao's feet seems strange. Why get a player for playing a position that he says he doesn't like? I guess that's why I call it infatuation. Most infatuations don't turn out to be solid relationships.

 

1) He just turned 26 in March so he will 31 turning 32 at the end of his contract. We get him during his prime.

2) He will be fine next to Yao and could hopefully up his numbers by getting weak-side blocks. It will be night and day compared to Hayes and Scola.

3) 11 boards per game hardly constitutes as an average rebounder.

4) See # 2. Plus, he averages a steal a game. That's not great but decent.

 

Personally I'm of the opinion that we go after Melo rather than Bosh, if it were only up to those two choices. I don't think that Melo is so significantly better than Bosh that warrants that opinion, and I think Bosh is a better character guy than Melo, but something about Bosh makes me feel that we as fans will regret it down the road giving him a max deal. I somehow see maybe an injury, or perhaps him not playing up to his potential after securing a deal. I don't see the same for Melo, he has the big build to resist an injury and the skills to close out games with his clutch ability.

 

This would be like me saying...Some reasons not to love Wade as a Rocket:

1) Max salary for six years

2) Average assists

3) Average defense

4) Lack of 3 pt range

 

Chris Bosh has averaged 72 games per season played.

Melo has averaged 73 games per season played.

I dont think you should base a decision on if you think a guy would get injured, specially when the player hasnt had any significant injuries in his career. If we are talking about signing a Yao type player, then yes, I'd be cautious. But, you cant let that get in the way of you signing someone that has been relatively healthy. If Bosh does end up getting injured, thats just bad luck...you cant avoid that.

 

I'd love to have Chris Bosh on the team, but if we're giving too much for him then I'd rather keep who we have. Hopefully Daryl Morey will work his magic again.

 

Ditto.

DD

 

I wouldn't be touting Carmelo's durability over Bosh.
As he gets older, Carmelo has missed more games than Bosh the last 2 years.

Carmelo
08-09 66 games played
09-10 69 games played

Bosh
08-09 77 games played
09-10 70 games played

 

Chris Bosh wants the max, no question about that. I rather get a superstar wing.

 

Problem with that is:

Where are we going to get that? Melo's not getting dealt(at least I don't think so). Granger maybe?

 

Honestly, I don't know how I feel about Bosh. Talent wise, and on paper, there is zero doubt that this team would improve greatly with him. Sad thing is, the game is not played on paper. This is not NBA Live, this is the NBA.

I personally don't like the fact that he wants to be the go-to guy (as he didn't prove jack **** (infact, every team he was a superstar for failed miserably. He is like another Tracy McGrady) in that role with Toronto and don't tell me he didn't have a supporting cast, Jarrett Jack/Jose Calderon/Hedo Turkoglu/Andrea Bargnani should be enough in the Leastern conference for at least the second round).

And honestly, I don't see how he is this major upgrade from Scola. Scola has proven that he can be a 20/10 guy on his own and he has proven that he can play well alongside Yao (funny how quickly people forget 08-09). For those reasons, I say keep Scola and sign Brad Miller and re-sign Lowry. If healthy, that team will compete.

 

i agree but i think the rockets are pretty much assuming yao will get hurt again or play significantly less minutes. so they want a big that can do more than what scola can... he showed this year he cant quite put up big numbers consistently.