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The offensive has started ..the battle of Portland

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ROXRAN, Aug 30, 2020.

  1. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

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    Also Fox News has a higher rate of "hot takes" which results in the channel being a form of outrage entertainment for people who aren't conservative.
     
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    The real question is whether that liquid you refer to is lethal.
     
  3. Duncan McDonuts

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    In this day and age where people have thrown acid or other caustic fluids, and where even breathing/coughing on someone is considered a terroristic threat, throwing a liquid on someone should be viewed as assault.
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    So if I went to town on some random people at a mall with a paintball gun I wouldn't be charged with assault?
     
  5. Duncan McDonuts

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    You would be if they did nothing to you. The paintballs weren't fired until after the flag was stolen+burned and liquid thrown on the Trumpers.
     
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    Did they get hospitalized for this liquid? How do you know it wasn't water or something not caustic. Why are you assuming the worst when there has been no history of left wing extremists using acid attacks?

    It seems like you might be biased.

    Also sincere question:

    Do you think those counter protestors with the paintballs are part of the solution or the problem?
     
  7. ROXRAN

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    What gives the left wing terrorists the right to burn, loot and murder and throw crap, try to burn buildings while police are in the buildings etc ?

    a better sincere question:

    Do you think the left wing terrorist rioters should stop being violent and are they helping or hurting Trump from being re-elected and why?
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    I believe left wing rioting and looting is severely overplayed by the likes of you when you suck your face into finding every nook and cranny incident and spam watching it multiple hours a day which results in your perception of prevelance of these incidents being severrly skewed. You pretend a few blocks of looting means an entire city is burning. You also ignore all the incidents where right wing trolls instigated looting and rioting.

    Notice how you never rely on data. You only rely on anecdotes while never trying to support your claims of prevelance with arrest numbers and how many people were murdered. I at least have data behind me to suggest that right wing violence is far more destructive in terms of human life.
     
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    Hahaha I had to stop there . You are just trolling now. Laters
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    Good riddance.
     
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    Can you think of any logical reason why Portland's mayor has refused help ?

    Honestly when this all first started , I was fine with not confronting those people so things didn't escalate further. A day or two and it'll be over .... The last thing we needed was another person getting dead or the media showing images of law enforcement using any kind of force. It may have sparked other cities.

    But there comes a time when authorities have to act and put this rioting / looting crap to rest - that should have happened before people were hurt / killed , not 90something days down the line.

    I really don't know why they aren't acting maybe they are still concerned about escalating the tension / violence .... maybe they are trying to make the insurance companies go broke .... maybe they think this is good politically.

    One thing's for certain they refuse Federal help. Piss off we don't want you here you. I think the main reason for that is they don't want Trump taking credit for putting and end to it and he would take credit , just like Kenosha.
    I can think of no other logical reason they have not requested help / resources from the Feds to keep their city safe. They'd rather watch it burn than ask for help.
     
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    If you don't understand why federal troops aren't wanted then you don't understand human psychology and how to quell tensions.

    Sending federal troops at the order of a man who is vehemently against their causes is only going to rile up more tensions. The leaders in these communties understand how angry underprivileged mobs work. If you examine human history, the more push back by the ones in power to suppress a movement or a cause just results in escalated push back.

    Sending federal troops ESCALATES tensions.
     
  14. Duncan McDonuts

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    Thankfully, there have been no reports of harmful fluids being thrown at these protests. That doesn't mean defending yourself from fluids is off the table. Throwing water someone is still assault.

    I have no problem with the protesters that are peaceful and orderly. The ones that aren't should be punished. I don't have a problem with self defense. That goes both ways.
     
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    Well personally I believe if someone shoots someone because water is thrown at them, that should be considered at the very least man slaughter. But fortunately it's just paint balls so it should just be assault.
     
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    Throwing water could be assault or it could be a six year old's birthday party... I'm just saying.
     
  17. Duncan McDonuts

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    All we can tell is that it was a liquid. People have been assaulted by acid before, and caustic fluids were reportedly used in Washington protests. There have also been numerous videos of molotov cocktails thrown during these protests. It's not unreasonable to defend yourself after being assaulted.
    Context kinda matters, like willing participants in a child's waterballoon fight vs. emotionally charged protesters with heightened tempers.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    You said no injuries were reported. So we can leave out caustic liquids as a possiblity. So whatever it is... milk, Gatorade, Pepsi, water etc; paintball rounds is escalation of force that isn't warranted in my opinion. Those people are just finding any reason to shoot those libtards.
     
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    You mean left wing democrat liberal commie socialist BLM Marxist antifa Bernie loving (but that includes Biden now) terrorists rioters protestors troublemakers evildoers?

    You got to make sure you get all the words in there!
     
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    Good point, had not thought of that.
     

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