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The Obama Adminstration's Handling of Wall Street.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Northside Storm, May 24, 2011.

  1. Major

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    When did Clinton ever twist arms successfully with Congress? His health care bill got completely obliterated by Democrats alone. Dems simply don't "fall in line" the way Republicans do, mostly because there's a much bigger diversity within the caucus.
     
  2. Northside Storm

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    Sam, I'm touched by your concern, and amused by your insecurity.

    Anytime you come up to Canada, feel free to swing by for a beer. no jokes. me and my "multiple user IDs" (???) will amuse you. my mom might be hanging around, and the basement is kinda dirty, but HEY, it's good living around fall time---Quebec is awesome tbh in terms of fun.
     
  3. thadeus

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    ....:cool:
     
  4. Dubious

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    Go get'em tiger

    "I remain hopeful that those who want to cripple this consumer bureau will think again and remember that the financial crisis – and the recession and job losses that it sparked – began one lousy mortgage at a time. I also hope that when those Senators next go home, they ask their constituents how they feel about fine print, about signing contracts with terms that are incomprehensible, and about learning the true costs of a financial transaction only later when fees are piled on or interest rates are reset. I hope they will ask the people in their districts if they are opposed to an agency that is working to make prices clear or if they think budgets should be cut for an agency that is trying to make sure that trillion-dollar banks follow the law. I hope they will ask their constituents if they are opposed to the confirmation of someone who saved $2 billion for retirees, investors, and business owners as Ohio Attorney General and who has worked hard on the front lines fighting against fraudulent foreclosures and abusive lending practices.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...cfpb-elizabeth-warren_n_900967.html?igoogle=1

    And hey they didn't really lose the Warren fight. She's running for Teddy's seat.
     
  5. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Even though this piece criticizes obama for not picking his first choice, this is about a whole new department the democrats had to fight for to protect consumers in the financial arena. and the article points out the fight republicans are putting on this.

     
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    All part of the Dodd-Frank show, which even in its' ideal form, is basically a watered-down Glass-Stegall.

    The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has already ruled out banning certain financial products. More or less, its' main role is disclosure, judging from the Warren hearing. So, the Dems are fighting for basically, credit card companies to reveal on what credit score they reject terrible loan applications for, and making sure mortgages are fully disclosed and informational advantage is leveled. Admirable goals, sure, but nowhere near the magnitude of change required.

    Meanwhile, the agency responsible for the meat of new Dodd-Frank enforcement is being starved, and there has been nary a peep from the White House.
     
  7. pgabriel

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    what do you want for consumers, a mommy hold my hand before i sign this contract bureau?
     
  8. Northside Storm

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    ^actually what the CFPB is, and nothing more. So looks like that's what you want, tbh.
     
  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    actually, northside you might be surprised. i actually think bankers don't get enough blame for taking down the mortgage industry. loan officers are there to make sound loans, they make a lot of money for that. now recently the shift of public opinion has moved to bankers for blame but at the beginning a lot of blame was put on consumers. i do think consumers should be more educated, and maybe this will help, but loan officers have a responsibility to make sound loans.
     
  10. Northside Storm

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    The CFPB doesn't really do anything to stop loan officers from making unsound loans, from what I've seen from hearings (though, tbh, usually coerced under Republican pressure), the emphasis is on disclosure---making sure consumers have the information to avoid unsound loans, but not preventing them in any way from the lending side (or at least, not outright banning certain financial products). The CFPB is pretty much restricted to hoping that flashing information at people will make them renege (fat chance on that---credit card debt amirite???). It is pretty much in its current form designed to be a "hold your hand" agency and little more.

    So to emphasize that the President is pushing somewhat over there, doesn't really impress me when I know that the two main agencies (SEC/CFTC) responsible for much of the enforcement of Dodd-Frank's new provisions are being starved of resources, and the President doesn't seem to be pushing very hard there.
     
  11. pgabriel

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    I'm posting this just to irritate Northside:)

    Goldman's earnings fall short



     
  12. Northside Storm

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    Little do you know, I have quite a few positions on the bank industry falling a bit short thanks to Dodd-Frank and debt ceiling warnings.

    ;)

    But yes, obviously the fact that derivatives, which have not been looked over at all, have some semblance of regulation being tacked onto them thanks to Frank-Dodd is a cause for concern for the banks. I'm not saying Frank-Dodd doesn't do anything, it just doesn't do nearly enough. It doesn't address the rating agencies which were crowing with their little heads that they were just merely spouting "opinions" (yeah, opinions that can cause entire countries to default thanks to higher borrowing rates). It doesn't address executive compensation that tends to reward short-term speculative cash flows that create large amounts of risk in the future (none of the Wall Street executives "lost"...most kept their jobs, or failing that, the salaries they garnered from propelling their banks to disaster. How the hell can that incentive structure be justified?) It fails to significantly address conflict of interest and lobbying issues, including a high amount of bank-sponsored academic research, lobbying, and "revolving door" government in critical agencies such as the SEC.

    etc. etc.
     
  13. pgabriel

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    government suing wall street banks over mortgages sold to freddie and fannie
     

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