Freedom of speech is stupid. People act like they are entitled to say whatever they want just because they can. Freedom of speech and morals go hand in hand. You have the freedom to say "lynch all n*****" but be prepared to get shot and killed for it.
Blah blah blah blah. How about "no negro", is that better? I am so sick of the " my group has been **** on more than yours" nonsense... The point is it is offense whether he meant it to be or not. He apologized and lost half a days wages, he was punished... We move on. To me the bigger story is that Roy Hibbert is a lazy **** that coasts in 75% of the regular season games and turns it on come playoff time.
People who are offended has really picked a weird time to be offended, IMO. No homo to me seems like a very prevalent phrase. And until this incident, I've never seen anyone speak out against the phrase. Whereas if I use the "N" word or something like f**got someone would surely report me and/or condemn me. If gay people feel it's derogratory, I'm okay with that and would have no problem crossing it out of my vocabulary. But at least speak the millions of times it's been used earlier rather than now.
You may have to strick out idioms altogether. I always try to keep up with faux paxs in speech, but I don't really understand them. I suppose I understand striking "***" from the language. Getting rid of "queer" seemed strange, but so be it. With this, are we saying that "homo" is no longer acceptable as a stand-alone term, or can it not be used as a prefix either? Or is the issue that he said "no" in front of homo, where he should have said "not to be confused with acts of same-sex sexual relations?" Or is being flip about sexuality unacceptable, unless said person is of the aforementioned sexual orientation? I don't know, man... most of this stuff doesn't jump out as pejorative language to me, but I grew up in a house where taking the Lord's name in vain would land me in Hell for eternity so I'm used to overreaction towards seemingly inane & harmless banter.
I dont see any problem with this. I actually think he was doing a favor to himself to make sure not to arouse Chris Bosh in the next game.
Don't patronize me. Quite frankly, I don't give a damn what you are sick off.....if it bothers you that much then I suggest you don't respond to such comments in the future. If the point that particular poster was trying to make was that Hibbert's statements were offensive whether or not he meant them to be, why the hell didn't he just say that? Let's be honest....he didn't say it that way because he wanted to get cute and use the whole " slurs against African people" angle. I just called him on his crap.
Critics of homosexuality have always seen homosexuals as hypersensitive and volatile. To the extent that we use speech codes to try to protect homosexuals from ever being offended. But in doing so, we are making the stereotypes worse and are actually reinforcing gay stereotypes.
This is about on the same level as the reporter that wrote "chink in the armor" in a Jeremy Lin article. The poor guy had no intention of offending anyone, he was just trying to describe a situation and used a somewhat common American phrase without really even thinking about it or bothering to dig up the history of the phrase before saying it. But he was crucified for it. Same thing when Howard Cosell referred to African American Joe Washington as "that little monkey" when praising Washington's performance on Monday Night Football. It's the same term he always used to describe his grandkids and clearly was in no way used in a racist context. Yet, it pretty much ended his career even though he was also largely responsible for the publicity and social platform of Muhammad Ali. Even the most worldly scholars are not fully educated on what all the many people and cultures of the world would find offensive. And it's sad that good people are fined, fired, and crucified for making innocent, inadvertent comments that are unknowingly ingrained in them from their upbringing and past generations. Yes, they should be reprimanded and called out on what they said, but they should definitely be given pardon. As George Carlin says, it's not the word or the phrase that's harmful, it's the context in how it's used. Also, what's funny is that most people (including those on this board) tend to laugh at jokes when it's aimed at someone other than themselves. The world will be a much better place when people lighten up, learn to laugh at themselves and the ridiculous stereotypes aimed at their race, religion, or sexual orientation. Continuing to be offended only adds separation and prevents any real learning or bonding between our cultures. And actually, those that are most offended are typically the ones that harbor the most hate inside, are the most resistant to change, and most responsible for lack of change.
the people i see getting offended by the response sound like stupid white people or those with the maturity of a high schooler /No racist
Are you saying that calling a gay a "homo" is not offensive to gays? Since the word "homo" hasn't been used for 500 years that "N" has it can't be considered offensive? Why can't we stop using offensive terms prior to them establishing a history? I'm not gay and I'm not black, so I can't say if either term is more offensive to the respective group.
Therein lies the problem. As long as people believe that being called gay is an insult, these type of juvenile sayings will persist in our language. I don't think Hibbert was trying to be offensive per se, but saying what he said (even as a joke) helps perpetuate the notion that being gay is undesirable. I mean, why on earth should being called 'gay' be the worst possible insult for a heterosexual man? That is ridiculous. If being called gay is the worst thing one can think of, I think that indicates a deep insecurity about one's sexuality. Isn't being called 'ignorant' worse? Isn't being called 'hateful' worse? Isn't being called 'evil' worse? I believe it is problematic if one's masculinity is such a defining quality of one's self image, that being called 'gay' is the worst thing imaginable.
I used that example simply because it was an easy example to use in response to the particular post I was responding to. "n-word"ly is an actual word used to define being cheap (as one of its definitions). I could not think of a word used to slur Mexicans, Asians, Arabs, etc. that I could use in a similar structure. If you want to go up to Jason Collins or Esaro Tuaolo and say "homo", have at it. Just because you and others do not think it is an offensive term, does not make it an OK term to use. Also, how can you actually say "let's be honest" when you have absolutely no idea what I was thinking when I typed that?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Everyday players say pause on Twitter. I don't see anyone getting fined. Because the league has no idea what it means.</p>— chris palmer (@ESPNChrisPalmer) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer/status/341388534139215872" data-datetime="2013-06-02T21:59:03+00:00">June 2, 2013</a></blockquote> <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pause.
Think about the reason why "no homo" is used. It is because you don't want anybody to think you are gay, therefore you go out of your way to clarify what you just said. Now, imagine a racist man who hates black people, despises them. If he were to say, "no black" after saying something, that signifies that the last possible thing he would want to be accused of is being black, because it is an insult for him to be called a black person. What Hibbert said isn't homophobic, but internally it signifies inequality in the worth of a human being if he/she is gay.
Of course they aren't going to pause an NBA for saying pause even if they knew what it meant. Homo and Pause are simply going to draw two different reactions.
