for Amare and really that's low ball deal. In real life, New York may ask for more. You think we are going to get Dwight Howard for that deal, when the Magic said they wanted a superstar in return.
Thing is,the guys they might lose is a lot easier to find than tye guys they have under contract. I would rather have a guy like carmello,chandler,amare,and shumpert than trying to find star talent. It easy to fill out a roster with draft picks and other guys.
If NY were to ask for more they would be laughed at and mocked. In fact that initial trade for amare was laughable. There is no way i want amare on this team with that contract. I'm not sure why you are so high on amare's trade value
It surely appears to me that teams like the Rockets are at extreme advantage in team building because they have not given away gargantuan max contracts to inferior players. When you look at how the CBA effects teams like Miami and NY, I don't see any way for them to get any better. Miami is always going to be stuck with third class big men and point guards because other teams are going to gobble up the first and second class players with mediocre to almost max contracts. Just don't see any way around it.
Guys, the only way a hard cap is imposed on the Knicks is if they use the NON-Taxpayer MLE on Lin. If they use the TAXPAYER MLE on Lin ($3.09M starting salary, up to three years), then they avoid the hard cap altogether. That is correct. The roster charges WOULD be calculated into "team salary" for determining the hard cap. Good clarification, CH. This, of course, does not change anything I've written above, though (except for not knowing what the league will do to penalize the Knicks if they still went over the hard cap). If that's not bad enough, Clutch: --That 2014 first rounder is UNPROTECTED; --The Knicks also gave up swap rights on their 2016 first round pick; and --The Knicks are without second round picks in 2012 and 2013.
Thing is, those star talent aren't taking them anywhere. Yeah, it's easy to replace those other guys. But replacing those other guys aren't going to get you anywhere either. That's why signing quasi franchise players to long term deals is a very risky thing to do. It can strap you to mediocrity for a long time.
Doubt they would go for that. How about Martin, Scola and Dalembert for Chandler and Amare? NY would clear over $4 million with this deal and get out of hot water. They could almost get flexible next summer when Martin and Dalembert's deals expire.
A very interesting suggestion. Can't see it happening but it does give Houston some more highly regarded players, and NY gets flexibility without screwing their team over. NY would need to find a better center than Dalembert though, maybe they ask for one of our draft picks and take Zeller or something.
Lin ranked No.2 in jersey sale in NBA, beat KB and LeBron, and it only took 1 month. If you think NYK will lose money on that signing, think again.
Toney Douglas has zero trade value. I can't see any team wanting him. ANd I would think somebody out there, a playoff contender, is going to offer Novak at least $3 million per.
omfg...what are you guys throwing out there!?! Why..WHY WHY WHY would the Knicks trade the defensive player of the year for scola and martin!?!?! Team of Amare/Scola/Melo/Martin.....can you so soft and ZERO defense..LITERALLY!?!
We're talking about serious money to athletes with limited careers. Only way he signs for less in NY is if it comes with a couple huge endorsement contracts, which could happen.
BimaThug, My reading of the CBA FAQ indicates that a team only has a roster charge for empty roster spots under 12-- i.e. if a team has 12 guys on the roster, there is no roster charge. However, the minimum roster size is 13, not 12. Doesn't this mean that NYK could potentially have 12 guys signed on the roster making $74.3 million, with no roster charge for the 13th spot to prevent them from going up to the full $74.3, but still needing to sign someone to fill the 13th spot?
Thats right. Thouh its still tougher than it seems to shed the quasi-franchise players. Rockets had 2 in McGrady and Yao. Look at the shape of the team now WITHOUT them. Rockets didnt get significantly worse, but worse enough to not be close to contending.
