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The New Roster

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by topfive, Feb 24, 2011.

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hitman1900 said:

Morey got Dragic thinking that the Rockets make it to the 8th seed and play the Spurs, the team Dragic unexpectedly blew up against, hahahaha. Oh god..... This is such a disaster I don't have any more words.
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At least the Rox added some height in the PG position.

#81 mhsc008, Feb 24, 2011

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Let's talk about our new Roster!!!

How are Battier and Brooks minutes reallocated? Those were 53 minutes a game combined.

Do we get to see T-Will in the playing rotation? Who starts at in place of Battier: Cortney Lee or Budinger? Does Thabeet stay in Houston or does he camp out in the D-league for the rest of the season?

Hayes / Miller / Hill
Scola / Patterson
Lee / Budinger
Martin /
Lowry / Drogic

(Hayes, Scola, Lee, Drogic, and Lowry) They make up a tough nosed line up!!! I like that team defensively.

And high lottery picks with potential - Thabeet, Williams, and Hill (wow if the Rockets can develop those 3 guys) My my!!!! The future for the Rockets team would look so good. But realistically, if only one of those guys develops into an All-Star, I think this would be a successful barrage of trades

Hey Rockets look like a long shot to get into the playoffs, but there are a lot of intangibles. Lee's minutes I think will got to 30 per game. Same with Budinger. Dragic should just step in and do what he was doing in Phoenix.

#82 vince, Feb 25, 2011
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I want to see Thabeet after a week or two of practices, you can't teach size, and the guy's 7'3

#83 greenhippos, Feb 25, 2011
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Atlast thabeet will get minutes or no ? Maybe adelman loves his toyboy miller, twill obviously should get minutes if not what is adelamn doing.
I wreckon twill should start as Sf since its
Lowry
Kmart
Twill
Scola
Hayes/Thabeet

for more of a defensive lineup

#84 Glenyo, Feb 25, 2011
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greenhippos said:

I want to see Thabeet after a week or two of practices, you can't teach size, and the guy's 7'3
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You can't teach a tall dumbass either.

#85 Nolocke, Feb 25, 2011
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Nolocke said:

You can't teach a tall dumbass either.
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Is this really necessary? He will get better and prove most wrong. I can't wait to give Miller's minutes and see what he can do.

#86 rocketsmetalspd, Feb 25, 2011
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Is this really necessary? He will get better and prove most wrong. I can't wait to give Miller's minutes and see what he can do.
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Ya good luck with that.

You think Adelman is going to play Thabeet over Brad Miller?

#87 HMMMHMM, Feb 25, 2011

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DM: "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

--Yao, Scola, Dragic, Thabeet

#88 javajoe, Feb 25, 2011
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thabeet / chuck / miller
scola / ppat / hill
carroll / bud / t-will
martin / lee
dragic / lowry

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#89 freshstart, Feb 25, 2011
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Starter / Minutes --- Backup / Minutes
Hayes / 28 ----------Miller and Hill / 20
Scola / 30 ----------Hill and Patterson / 18
Budinger / 28 -------Lee and T-Will / 20
Martin / 32 ---------Lee and Dragic / 16
Lowry / 30 ---------Dragic and Lee / 18

Backups total Minutes:
Miller - 15 minutes
Hill - 13 minutes
Patterson - 10
Lee - 30
Dragic - 18
T-Will - 6

#90 vince, Feb 25, 2011
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Thabeet is a project. That depresses me, but it's one more chance for a player to turn into something special.

#91 pbthunder, Feb 25, 2011
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That's the same thing we said about hill, he was garbage in ny. But watch thabeet is gonna surprise you all and he will be something.

#92 yahboyryan, Feb 25, 2011
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That's the same thing we said about hill, he was garbage in ny. But watch thabeet is gonna surprise you all and he will be something.

#93 yahboyryan, Feb 25, 2011

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Budinger is the starting SF now. DD faints... wherever he is.

#94 Ricksmith, Feb 25, 2011
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Our new bench brigade:

Dragic
Lee
TWill
Hill/Thabeet
Patterson

That is........if Adelman doesn't make any more changes to the starting unit.

I am interested in seeing these guys play together. I like the 3 perimeter guys very well. And then you add in Patterson. I think they can rake on almost any bench in this league. Now, Thabeet could join up with these guys and simply bust his behind helping on D and rebounding the ball and let's see if he can give us some quality minutes.

I'm not against Thabeet....anymore.....since he's on our team...boy, that's difficult to say. Maybe he can become a legit backup 5 that makes a contribution similar to what Deke did for us. At least I can hope...right?

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RowdyRicky said:

Budinger is the starting SF now. DD faints... wherever he is.
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Isnt he the only 3 ?

Twill and Lee are really 2's.

#96 jim1961, Feb 25, 2011
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Isnt he the only 3 ?
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Oh, theirs DeMarre Carroll

#97 jim1961, Feb 25, 2011
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For all those who asked, "Who's DeMarre Carroll" here's a nice little bit about him from college... this is almost 2 years old you'll notice, so take it with a grain of salt.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DeMarre-Carroll-5069/

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NCAA Weekly Performers, 3/15/09
March 15, 2009

When we wrote about DeMarre Carroll during the pre-season, he was a power forward transitioning to the wing, a prototypical collegiate tweener with much work to be done. This season, Carroll has made great strides in his game, emerging as one of the NCAA’s most versatile players in addition to being the top option on the 14th ranked team in the country. He still has a long way to go and much improvement needs to be made before he can consider himself a small forward in the NBA, but based on his improvements over the course of this year, he is well on his way.

Physically, there is much to like and to question about Carroll. He has optimal size for the NBA wing, standing 6’8 with a good wingspan, but could stand to add more muscle to his slight 225-pound frame. At this time, he lacks the bulk to contend with collegiate post players, let alone NBA big men. While he runs the floor extremely well for a player his size, he is not freakishly athletic. This, particularly his lack of elite leaping ability, will likely hinder his transition to the wing on both sides of the floor at the next level.

Offensively, Carroll has made many improvements, most notably in his ball handling. While he certainly has a lot of work left to do, as he still looks awkward handling the ball in traffic, still favors his left hand over his right hand, and at this point isn’t very creative off of the dribble, Carroll’s improved handle has opened up a lot of his offense, particularly his mid-range and slashing games. Also much improved is his shooting stroke, which, as seen in his career high TS% and eFG%, has become a reliable part of his offensive game. That being said, he still shows a lot of room for improvement, particularly in his shooting stroke, which would benefit from consistency. His shooting motion is also a bit slow for the next level and sometimes he has the tendency to hang at the top of his jump, and shoot on the way down, which hurts his shooting stroke, particularly with a hand in his face. At this point, he is most comfortable in catch and shoot situations on the perimeter and pulling up inside of the three-point arc. He looks much improved in terms of these perimeter-oriented skills, but he needs to continue to work, proving to scouts that he can knock down perimeter jumpers consistently and practicing so as to become more comfortable with his mid-range game.

In terms of his slashing game, Carroll has made nice strides, as well. His handle has improved tremendously, allowing him to get to the rim faster than in previous years. He shows good touch and finishes well at this level, but lacks the strength and leaping ability for his scoring ability in the paint to translate well to the NBA game. Similarly, while he shows good quickness and decent footwork in the collegiate post, which allows him to have a fairly reliable back to the basket game, he lacks the size and athleticism to be much of a factor in the NBA post.

Carroll might have trouble defensively at the next level, as he may have to defend small forwards at times rather than post players, as he does now. His lateral quickness is only average and despite the fact that he has improved this year, he still does not look capable of staying with the NBA’s elite wing players. His awareness doesn’t look that improved, either, and he still gives guards and wings open shots far too often. This might be the area in which he will have to impress scouts most, as many of the players in his mold have thrived in the NBA based on their defensive prowess.

Thus, the outlook on Carroll is more positive than the last time we evaluated him, but still leaves a lot room for questions. For one, how much more can he improve his perimeter skills? How much better can he get with his perimeter defense? Carroll has made many improvements since his junior season, but he still has some work to do before he can consider himself a wing at the next level. He should look to the career trajectories of players such as Dominic McGuire and Renaldo Balkman. Carroll is not quite as athletic as either player, but, if he wants to stick in the NBA, then he should take notice of their commitment to improving defensively in addition to brushing up his all around game. A good NCAA or Portsmouth Invitational tournament performance would open scouts’ eyes significantly, however. Therefore, Carroll has a lot of work left to do with few opportunities to impress on the big stage.
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Welcome to "The Valley" Mr. Carroll.

#98 eric.81, Feb 25, 2011

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Rocket River said:

How long before people will be bailing on Lowry
saying that Dragic should start?

Rocket River
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Good question. We also need to consider how long before all the Twill junkies turn on him once he gets on the court.

#99 HillBoy, Feb 25, 2011
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Im gonna ask this on every possible thread I can till i get an answer!

Anyone know what number Thabeet is gonna rock??

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