The New Brawl - NY v. Denver

Isiah left Jeffries and Fryes in the game, Lee and Robinson played very well for the Knicks. The only one get in the game late was Collins and I am not sure if he did not get special instruction from Isiah when he came into the game either.
Isiah and the Knicks cried like babies yet don't tell me they never tried hightlight reel dunks themselves before.

 

I see your point, I would do the same thing. If I was the opposing coach, I would send in Mutumbo to flagrantly foul Marbury, as he runs up the score and a big brawl break out. I would then blame it on the Knicks for running up the score.

 

Melo throwing a punch when it was basically over was utter trash. Then to back away after the punch was sad. When Jeffries just started running toward melo He took off runing like a little girl. That was very weak and pathetic in my eyes.

 

There is a pattern here. Back 2 Back games the Knicks gave flagrant foul in the last minutes. But the Indiana Pacer who Mardy Collins flagrantly fouled is a bench player and I dont think the Pacers kept their starters late in the game. So, the true message the Knicks try to send to all the teams is "Dont embrass us in MSG, with or without starters."

I know the Knicks draw boos from their own fans in MSG. But that's the not way to stop your own embrassment. What the Knicks should do is fire Isaih Thomas to stop its own embrassment.

 

Dude, people heard what he said to Carmelo. And what he warned Melo about happened to Smith. Keep trying to argue it away. What he says after the incident, that he may have caused, is irrelevent.

If Rick Carlisle was overheard yelling to Ben Wallace, "you better watch yourself heading to the basket" before the Palace brawl, we'd rip on him too.

 

I wish the same thing on all gang members. I've had a few confrontations with dealers, gang members, some of whom have also threatened my family. Where the business is located, it's a smaller town where gangs and drugs are more prevalent then normal. We've been targeted a few times, and I don't feel any sympathy for anyone who associates w/ them. Just because you're an NBA player and have fame and money doesn't make you a nicer person.

 

Send these punks to Iraq if they want to fight. Dont glorifying fights please. This is uncivilized. Man fights not for this.

 

Dude haven't you seen that little b**** who tried to front on Yao after his team got a dunk on him in the world games this summer?

Yao just shoved his tiny ass to the floor like it was nothing.

Yao knows what it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rHH5PKrOCw

Funny though that "little b****" might actually be 6-8 or something.

 

If this is true, Isaiah is a punk. Especially when you are a coach, this is the most immature, unprofessional thing you could do from the sideline. This guy still has the mentallity of a 12 yr old. That said, Carmello is an even bigger punk because he was so easily baited by Thomas.

 

Hell, at least he should get plenty of playing time for a while! Man, no news on suspensions yet? I really don't think the "brawl" was that big a deal, but in today's NBA, it must seem like Hiroshima or something. You should have seen the fights back in the day, and one of the toughest dudes there, someone nobody wanted to mess with, was our badly missed TV analyst for the Rocks, Calvin Murphy. The guy was a real bad ass.

Really, until the terrible punch landed on Rudy T, fighting was a pretty regular occurrence, and practically considered part of the game. A scuffle here, and some swings there were no big deal. Players would get ejected from a game, and then play the next one. Now that I think about it, even after Rudy's tragedy there were still a lot of fights and scuffles. Stern is the one who's tried to make the league Disneyland for basketball, with everyone expected to be good little boys and, in the case of Melo, girls.

 

In Isiah's defense, he was the only person at least trying to keep the Nuggets out of the paint all night.

 

Kelly, if this is true, Isaiah is gone and the positive legacy he had as a player will be further tarnished. I didn't think he could take the Knicks any lower but let's wait and see.

I don't want to jump to conclusions. After the circumstances are considered, after every single tape is reviewed, after witnesses are interviewed and all the facts are in, I hope the NBA dishes out some severe punishment. I've been an NBA fan my whole life and will continue for a long time, but this kind of trash gives me pause. The league has to show once and for all that fighting and thuggery won't be tolerated under any circumstances. Apparently what happened in Detroit hasn't taught the league and players enough. Players must fear the consequences of their actions and those that don't should be banned.

 

as a reporter, i would think you would want to do better than , "dude people heard". a lot of false reports came out after the detroit/indiana brawl, and as I stated earlier, you say he warned carmelo, but nothing happened to carmelo.

you're just gonna have to do better considering the negative bias people have against the guy already.

 

Add Nate Robinson's midget complex and Melo's immaturity, and that pretty much sums up the entire situation.

My advice to David Stern is to let the players off on this one. This is a great story to sensationlize and honestly nothing that bad happened. At worst, he should give Thomas a JVG style fine for threatening a player and then slap the players on the wrist for participating in a meaningless fight with some small suspensions. Worst player penalties should be to the guys who were stupid enough to let it spill into the crowd. The league and the NYKs would be better without Thomas, so make him the scapegoat and make the players out to be silly kids.

Check this one out... it goes into the stands and those guys were going for blood. The Knick/Nugget fight looked like a bunch of pansies in comparison.
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One other comment... the more Stern tries to sanitize the games and eliminate all emotional outlets for players, the more these kinds of spill over events will take place IMO.

 

Here's an interesting take on how this fight compares to others (including Gundy vs. Mourning)... basically the writer's argument is that things changed after Indy vs. Detroit.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...5nYcB?slug=aw-brawl121706&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

 

not only that, people were holding down collins.. then melo unexpectedly punches him then runs back to his bench like a b!tch.. I know being a snitch is worse for sure but what melo did isn't to far behind

 

Knock out But Melo started running away from him haha..

 

As a HS graduate, I would think you could do better with capitalization and punctuation.

 

if I gave a crap about what you thought about my posts, maybe I would. I didn't know this was my midterm essay