he still needs to stop gambling as much as he does....worrell already sees it and calls him out...watching the knicks game again, ariza gambles on the break and worrell says " ariza gambles and leaves the rockets shorthanded", and sure enough it left tmac wide open for a putback immediately after that.....
Except on avg he will be making closer to 7 mil. Raja bell who just got waived today is making closer to 5 mil and puts up better numbers. Roger mason jr is making close to 4 mil. There are plenty of players who are as good as ariza who make a lot less. It is usually just not good to sign a guy to a big contract who just came of a hot playoff streak.
Raja Bell has better numbers? He has worse numbers across the board than Ariza except shooting percentage, and his something like 10 years older than Ariza, shorter with much less athleticism. And his contract was signed long time ago, Yet he still made more than 5 mil. And if you think Roger Mason (5 year older, shorter, much less athleticism) plays on the same level with Ariza, you haven't been watching many games this year. He's averageing 6.5/2/2/ on 40% shooting, yet he still makes 4mil. Ariza is making 5.5 mil more than doubling his contribution. Ariza is a steal compare to those guys.
Worrell is not nearly as basketball savvy as Adelman or Morey. Ariza's "gambling" is by design, not because he's out of control. I will say that Ariza's style is much more suited for a frontcourt of Gasol/Bynum/Odom than Hayes/Andersen/Scola/Landry. Mainly because the latter can't protect the paint to save their lives. In other words, if next year we're trotting out Yao/Bosh, Yao/Monroe, Yao/Cousins, etc. then people will see the positives(steals->transition->easy basket) over the negatives(opponent layup).
What??????? The coaches are asking him to reach and leave the team's defense exposed? LOL....NOT ! DD
Ariza did the same things last year. Helped the Lakers get a ring. Helped get himself full MLE offers from Houston, Cleveland, LA, and maybe some other team(s) I'm forgetting. Basically, you're calling Morey, Adelman, Phil Jackson, Mike Brown, Danny Ferry all morons.
I always said he'd look better if T-Mac came back or whoever we'd get for him. Tre isn't a first option, maybe not even the second. But is a very good role player.
Ariza does gamble too much and on a team with no shotblockers, opposing teams will expose it. That style did work to help the Lakers win the championship and that style could work when Yao returns. But on this team, the gambles could cost us. All that being said, Ariza is an above average defender but his on the ball defense is nowhere near Battier's level.
Take any secondary player in this league and ask him to be a primary option, and this is the most likely result. I don't get why the BBS was cracking on him so bad when he was in a no win situation. It was similar to the grief Rafer got when he wasn't able to magically become an inefficient 20 ppg scorer all the times Yao and Tracy were hurt. If Battier tried to triple his scoring role it would be just as disastrous. Thankfully, we've got a nice balanced roster now and Trevor can relax and play within his game.
Trevor gambles some and i'm sure morey knew this. They take the good with the bad. Through the years, even with the top 5 defenses, the rockets have been at the bottom in terms of forcing turnovers. Forcing more to's lead to transition baskets and just giving the ball back to your team. Not to mention people miss the tipped or deflection he gets with his long arms. Bottomline and posters can frown on it, but ariza can be a starter and contribute on a championship quality team.He's also young enough on a mle contract to which he will still be young enough if it takes 3 yrs to become a championship quality team.
you're making you'reself dumber by the second. LOL just stop it. Adelman a while back said in an article on nba.com that Trevor needs to gamble less on defense because that creates pressure on other guys to come over and cover his mistakes.
exactly, its not even that ariza is a role player, its that he was playing at the two and he's a classic three
It wasn't just about his percentages. It was about how he demanded the ball when better players had it (Brooks, Scola), pouted like a baby when they didn't pass it to him (nearly every game) and never learned to stop taking the same bad shots (pull up 20 footers he NEVER makes) or the same dumb decisions (the repeated drive into the lane and fall down move). I can deal with poor shooting percentages from a guy who takes good shots (Chuck Hayes, Shane Battier). What I cannot deal with is a guy who takes bad shots, gets mad when other players won't let him take more bad shots and who generally does not learn from his mistakes. Luckily, Ariza learned the hard way that he is a poor offensive player and has seemed to defer to the actual good offensive players on the team. Now if he will start living up to his reputation as a good defender things will be great. He will still be overpaid by this team's standards but at least he will come close to earning his money.
He makes closer to $6 million THIS season and will make an average of about $7 million per hear over the course of his contract. He's overpaid. Off the top of my head I would say Aaron Affalo is a player who makes a fraction of what Trevor makes and plays the same defense with better offensive efficiency. Ronnie Brewer is not much of an outside shooter but he's a smarter offensive player and light years ahead of Trevor defensively yet he makes half of what Ariza does. Sure, if you compare Trevor's salary to players who play for the Knicks or Mavericks he might be a decent to good value but compared to what our guys make it's not a good contract at all.
No, I am basically calling Trevor a young player who makes moronic decisions sometimes that the coaches are willing to live with as he matures and learns when to NOT make moronic decisions. DD
you certainly dont have a way with numbers other than omitting some of them. $5,854,000 $6,322,320 $6,790,640 $7,258,960 $7,727,280 avg that out and it's 6.8ish mil, which is closer to 7mil than it is to 5mil (which someone else said he makes). im pissed that ariza was signed at all, as he's not worth his salary. id rather us sign no one than pick up ariza's crappy contract at all
Ariza was a large part of a championship team..he consistently hit big shots and made huge defensive plays during the playoff run which ended in him earning a ring...tell again me how raja bell at 33 or whatever and roger mason freakin jr can even compare for the price??
Switch 'trevor' with your beloved 'aaron' brooks and the comment makes just as much sense...we're a very young team trying to win games with a 6'6 center, 3 rookies, a handful of rag-tags and misfits and even some d-league players...it was always gonna be ugly without yao..
