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The NBA referees are racist

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by fa7999, Apr 7, 2004.

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  1. Yetti

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    Yao Ming is fould at least 50 times a game which the Refs dont call and this is a consevative estimate.
     
  2. Batman Jones

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    Why, that's the most racist statement I've ever heard!
     
  3. HillBoy

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    This is exactly what we need: another post from someone who lives on the Bizarro Planet.
     
  4. JPM0016

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    yeah, lets just blame the refs. The usual scapegoat. Get over it
     
  5. tolne57

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    I agree, thiis a pretty lame thread. However, just because someone is not racist against black people does not mean that they are not racist against others.
     
  6. SwoLy-D

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    Welcome to the Another Needless Thread awards.

    Previous winner of the ANT award: "Mo Taylor is Stupid"

    New winner of the ANT award: "The NBA referees are racist"

    Congratulations.
     
  7. Summer Song Giver

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    The world's gone rascist, who will save yao :D
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    Instead of black and white stripes, they should wear brown shirts. :rolleyes:
     
  9. nyquil82

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    why can't we just get someone to interview the refs on why they make calls differently with yao than everyone else? they are being called out on it, im sure somebody is sending them game tape of fouls they don't call, why can't we hear it from their side instead of just suffering through it?
     
  10. Toast

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    I wouldn't go so far as to call them racist, but any fan of the NBA can see they have it in for the Rockets.

    What's a non-call on our offensive end is a foul called against us when we're on defense. I've seen it over & over & over & over & over (to quote JVG) again. No whistle when we're on offense, but we can't get away with it on defense.

    Steve wasn't doing a good job of fronting & keeping his guy in front of him on defense last night? You guys know why? He got called for QUICK fouls and played through foul trouble the WHOLE game. If he didn't defend with his hands up and OFF the defender, he was whistled. Then he gets on the offensive end and is hand-checked the whole time, guys reaching in hacking at him. So THEN he gets burned when playing defense, and YAO gets in foul trouble. What the hell can we do???

    The worst was when Steve got T'ed for stepping on the court. What, 5-8 isn't good enough for the refs, so if Steve steps on the court it goes 6-8 and isn't enough of an edge for the refs?

    I'm truly sick of this BS. The Rockets are trying to put an entertaining team on the floor, but these refs just kill us. Seriously. I know bad calls go both ways, but the refs are truly out to get the Rockets. Stern, you want to know why I don't go to anymore games? 'Cause my voice & throat can't take blasting the refs anymore. You better do something about this crap. I'd LOVE to watch more Rockets games and spend my hard-earned dollars on your league, but not if your league treats my team like this.

    I'm F'ing fed up. The refs take points away from our team and hand them to our opps on a silver platter. We're talking 30-40 point differentials a game here. I'm not exaggerating. If anything, I'm being conservative. This nonsense has to stop.
     
  11. Juugie

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    Stop whining...

    Dream was hacked so much on his shooting hand that he had to bandage three of the fingers together just to have some strength in it.

    Every big man gets fouled and a lot of them are not called.

    This league is about respect and until you prove something, you don't have any. When Yao started doing all that flopping earlier in the year, the refs took notice. When physical play takes Yao out of his game, the refs notice. They are always going to try to avoid making calls that directly determine the outcome of the game. They are going to let the players decide it ON THE COURT.

    That means that Yao has to overcome the physical play. The refs are not going to bail him out.

    Also, there have been lots of times when Yao has gone over the back for a rebound or soemthing like that and not gotten a foul called.

    Against the Bucks, when Yao had five fouls, he committed at least another 2 or 3 in the 4th/overtime and none of them were called.

    It all equals out in the end.
     
  12. codell

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    Here are some interesting stats. Take from them what you will (stats based on each player's 2nd season):

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  13. daRox

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    racist? NO!!!

    incompetent? YES!!!

    Please don't play the race card. We all know Shaq doesn't go to the charity line enough, are you going to call them racists, too?
     
  14. Toast

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    If it did equal out in the end, I wouldn't get so fired up. But it simply doesn't.

    For one, our opps on average shoot 3 more free throws a game. But that's just a statistic.

    On the court, I've noticed in the past month a typical half will end with 3 Rockets starters having at LEAST 2 fouls (best case scenario - just 2 fouls). Meaning they've been riding pine because of foul calls. How many times have our opponents been to the stripe 8-9 times while they only have 1 foul called against them in the first quarter? I GUARANTEE it's not because we're the only team fouling out there on the court. By the time the refs have already directly affected the outcome of the game, they'll "throw us a couple of bones" to get us to around 3 less free throws than our opps, but the damage is done.

    Did you watch MoT's frustration boil over last night because of this? Totally hacked on offense, no call. Does the exact same thing his defender did to him and is called for his 4th. Frustrated, he gets over-agressive next play down and is called for an offensive foul - his 5th. 3 plays in a row where the refs directly impacted the game for us. At best, that's a 6 point advantage for our opps in about 40 seconds. At worst, it could be a 12-15 point swing.

    The refs are stopping us from playing our game. No, I won't quit "whining" about that.

    P.S. codell, looks like you have that last stat named backwards ... shouldn't it be FGA/FTA ratio? Not sure what that stat's supposed to tell, though.
     
  15. Juugie

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    When you play a double low post offense with post players that avoid physical contact and prefer your perimeter players to stand at the 3 point line and jack up shots from there, you will not get to the line.

    Just about every shot Yao and Mo T shoot are fade aways.

    The opposing teams get to the line by penetrating.

    Every fan of every team in the league thinks that the refs don't like their team/star and that they aren't treated fairly by the refs.
     
  16. robbarnett

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    I'm embarressed for you :eek:
     
  17. B-Bob

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    codell, those are interesting. thanks! not to be picky, but I believe the ratio in the last column is actually "FGA/FTA," so the larger numbers indicate not getting many free throws compared to other centers. The most "screwed," if you will, was Olajuwon in his second year, followed closely by Brand.
     
  18. vunny1408

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    yes, the ball is racist too because it won't go in the rim.
     
  19. Davidoff

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    I want to see yao get mad get a T then do something cool to make a statement. Like that T-mac thing a few games back drop kicking the ball in to the 3rd deck!!!
     
  20. Visagial

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    My wife seriously was about to cry after Claxton hacked Yao and ran off with the ball right in front of the ref. She couldn't understand why the refs were being so unfair. JVG stopped speculating too about why Yao never gets any calls. At first he said it was size but he's gone away from that to saying he doesn't know why.

    Other than size, the only other things that stick out about Yao to every referee are his race and style of play. So I don't think it's so absurd to say race has something to do with it. When you rule everything else out, what else can it be?

    That said, I don't think it's his race. Yao does play pretty recklessly without getting called for fouls. He jumps into players and is over the back very often and the refs don't call it unless it's pretty bad. So when he's hacked I think the refs are trying to even things out.

    I still don't think this is fair though. If Yao is doing something wrong, he should be called for it so that he'll stop. At the same time, if he's getting hacked or pushed with 2 hands, they should make that call too.

    The way their calling it now does not, in my opinion, make things even. Yao really doesn't seem to understand what he's allowed and not allowed to do and this way of calling the game really neutralizes his effectiveness and takes away what should be freethrows.
     
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