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The nba buyouts are ruining the game, gaming the hard cap

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by what, Mar 10, 2021.

  1. hakeem94

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    So he's saying, the small market teams should give up assets to trade for disgruntled former stars. And when the big market teams can just sign these guys to min deal if the small market teams don't want to do stupid trades, they should just shut up.

    Make sense. :rolleyes:
     
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    Drummon
    Like everything else,
    no boycott needed. Why do you think players are moving to big market teams. It’s gotten so bad that there is no viewership.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    It has nothing to do with big or small market. It has to do with teams that have a chance at winning a chip. Houston has gotten more than a few buyout and minimum guys and Houston isn't a big market based on how little the owners have spent.
     
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    Maybe. And maybe big markets have better chances to form a team that can win a chip and so these guys can sign on to help them get even better chances.

    Basically, the problem we are seeing now is that there is a loophole in the buyout thing to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Of course, it has always happened. Teams that already have a superstar can attract other stars more easily than teams that don't have one. And if you have two or more superstars, you can attract the over the hill but still quite good ring chasers.

    What we are seeing is that a small market has to work extra hard and extra smart to keep their superstar IF they are lucky enough to land one by sucking and tanking. If they can't do that within the window of the superstar's early prime, the superstar will bolt and most likely to a big market team. That's how it works.

    So well, according to Carter Rodriguez, they should just shut up.
     
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    Big markets have always done better in every sport other than football who really did a number with their really hard cap. NFL owners are more organized partly because they were emboldened by the success of the scab season decades ago. NFL fans are more loyal to teams than any other sport.
     
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    you are treating Blake as if he is still an All Star, he isn't at that stage anymore. I get sick of fans who are judging players on what they achieved earlier in their careers and still think they are the same when older. Blake was correct when saying that people only cared when he joined the Nets...............and not when he was at the Pistons being told he couldn't play anymore
     
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    Well, maybe Blake himself also didn't care when he was at the Pistons. :D
     
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    he tried as hard as he could but The Pistons are just really bad
     
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    That has nothing to do with buyouts; nobody is buying out a superstar in their prime.

    You're mad that Harden left, but you're in denial that he was happy here until Tilman drove off Morey and closed the pocketbook. Extra hard and extra smart? If only.
     
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    Bill Simmons and Russilo had a great discussion on buyouts on a recent pod. We always overhype them but the last time a buyout actually contributed to a championship was PJ Brown on the 08 Celtics. Most of the time, if you get bought out you're garbage. Deron Willaims on LeBrons Cavs. Damon Stoudemire on the Celtics. Bogut on the Cavs. Brewer on the Mavs. All were bought out, hyped up, then useless. It does seem though that they are getting bought out younger now but for a team to just give up on you like that, you're probably pretty bad.
     
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    Why is this about Harden again? :rolleyes:
     
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    LMA and BG were all stars two years ago. LMA wasn't even that bad with the spurs.
     
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    No doubt this is the most talented buyout market there's ever been. But at the same time, there was still a reason they were bought out. San Antonio isn't even tanking. They're still in the playin mix. They'd straight up rather play Keldon Johnson. Not saying LMA is trash but he's far from what he was 2 years ago. Blake Griffin had a funny quote where he said something along the lines of "For years in Detroit people were making fun of me and saying I was washed up but I go to Brooklyn and suddenly I'm an all-star and stacking the deck?" It's all media spin now. The most intentionally disingenuous thing is when they show graphics adding up the all star appearances on Brooklyns roster as if it means the same thing for KD and Griffin or Harden and LMA. Listen to the pod they actually go through every single buyout in recent years.
     

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