The NBA’s most lopsided 1-way players: Offensive edition

Ha ha, this is great.

And he did such a terrible job that Stotts put a restraining order on him to kep him from going near Paul in Game 2, as shown above.

Technically you can see Harkless starting to pick up Paul late in Game 1, though the final highlight of the "point point you get him oops Alley oop" in transition by Lillard is probably my favorite clip of the day.

Thanks for the video.

 

Interesting. I provided conclusive video proof that supports my argument, and you Harden-fans still won't admit I'm right. That's the real "brain test".

 

No.

Lillard is a very poor defender.... Then again 80% of players that carry that sort of load are bad defensively. Westbrook is quite bad defensively as well.

Team defense is the larger issue in the modern NBA. A good system with players buying in will make an individual defender less exposed.

 

Oh!!! We doing videos?

https://youtu.be/_SDiQQRa6OE
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Lillard gives effort... And at least is in front of his man. Hardens D is like the submissive 1/2 of a prison couple. Take it when you want it.

 

Even if Lillard is bad at defense at least he tries hard so his teammates think to themselves that they need to try hard as well. Harden sucks at defense not because he's incapable of good defense, but because he refuses to try. That's poor leadership.

 

No, you provided a link to a youtube highlight video that can be interpreted many ways - very of few of these ways are flattering towards Lillard as a defender, of course. confirming what is generally believed and also backed by empirical and video evidence, that he is not a strong defensive player.

Conclusive video evidence would be something more like this:

Spoiler

http://stats.nba.com/game/#!/0041500172/playbyplay/#play9~
Here's the video box score for Game 2 - sadly hte game 1 one is offline - I tried to chart the plays where they were both on the floor

Griffin Lost Ball Turnover (P1.T1)
http://on.nba.com/1QtMXxj

Paul is being guarded by Maurice Harkless. Does not appear to be a switch.

Redick 3PT Jump Shot (3 PTS) (Paul 1 AST)
http://on.nba.com/1XiEG6W

Paul picked up at the top by Harkless again in the half court

Redick 21' Turnaround Jump Shot (5 PTS) (Paul 2 AST)
http://on.nba.com/1U8gEL2

Exact same as previous play - Paul picked up by Harkless. Are you sensing a pattern here?

Paul 6' Pullup Jump Shot (3 PTS) (Jordan 1 AST)
http://on.nba.com/1XiGU6d

Guess who was covering Paul - if you said "Mo Harkless" - you can pick up your Captain Obvious hat tomorrow AM at Will call.

Redick 26' 3PT Jump Shot (8 PTS) (Griffin 1 AST)
http://on.nba.com/1XiIk0u

Do I even need to tell you anymore who's guarding Paul? IF you're interested, Lilliard is indeed "hidden on...Mbah a Moute." - I will not insult you further by saying that guarding Redick is being "hidden" - considering it means you have to run off a billion screens and get your ass kicked.

MISS Paul 28' 3PT Running Pull-Up Jump Shot
http://on.nba.com/1XiIVPQ

Transition basket...so maybe somebody else...Nah, just fooling it was MO HARKLESS

MISS Redick 25' 3PT Jump Shot
http://on.nba.com/1XiJucu

It's pretty funny to see the exact same sets being run again and again and again - Harkless picks up Paul at the top, Lillard rests around hte baseline guarding the corner 3 from Mbah a Moute, ready to take the rebound.

MISS Paul 12' Jump Shot

Hey, at least Lillard gravitated towards Paul when Harkless was stuck behind a screener - so that's...something? Nah not really.

Paul 16' Turnaround Fadeaway (5 PTS)

It's NOT MO HARKLESS...yay, he gets a break, since he gets screened off - instead it's Al-Aminu on the switch, and Lillard swipes nonchalantly at the ball while....you guessed it, hanging in the corner doing nothing much else.

MISS Jordan 3' Alley Oop Layup

Transition - Plumlee gets stuck on Paul - Harkless makes a late effort to switch back , Lillard and Mbah-a-Moute trade recipes for Tuna casserole in the deep corner...again.

Mbah a Moute Illegal Screen Turnover (P1.T2)
http://on.nba.com/1YyNzrJ

Hey! Lilliard is actually INVOLVED IN A PLAY, selling hte contact on a baseline screen by Jordan and drawing the foul. He's not guarding Paul of course, one guess on who drew that THank-less task one MO time.

Griffin 3' Layup (2 PTS)
Harkless switch with al-Aminu. I am starting to yawn. Please make this eye test stop.

MISS Redick 19' Pullup Jump Shot
http://on.nba.com/1YyNZ14

Up to 3 Blazer defenders at least show on Paul in this sequence. Though redick takes the shot and the fourth defender is involved. Lillard is....not one of them, again drawing Mbah-a-Babysitter duty in the corner. He must be bored. I know I am.

Redick 27' 3PT Jump Shot (11 PTS) (Paul 3 AST)
http://on.nba.com/1YyO6Kg

Not amazing transition D by the blazers here - McCollum tries to take on Paul by pointing, Harden/Howard style, Redick is wide open, Lillard is doing...something on the free throw line.

SUB: Kaman FOR Harkless

And with that, I'm going to follow Mo's lead and am mercifully done with this exercise.

Damian Lillard guarded Chris Paul by design....approximately never, with first-choice lineups available.

Why would you do that? He's a lousy defender and he needs to be preserved for offense. Stotts made the right call here.

 

Wow. Even after seeing conclusive video proof, you're unwilling to admit I'm right.

That speaks volumes about your character.

 

Conclusive video proof is something more like the below.

Flying your ignorance in the face of it is a good tactic though - very Trumpy.

http://stats.nba.com/game/#!/0041500172/playbyplay/#play9~
Here's the video box score for Game 2 - sadly hte game 1 one is offline - I tried to chart the plays where they were both on the floor

Griffin Lost Ball Turnover (P1.T1)
http://on.nba.com/1QtMXxj

Paul is being guarded by Maurice Harkless. Does not appear to be a switch.

Redick 3PT Jump Shot (3 PTS) (Paul 1 AST)
http://on.nba.com/1XiEG6W

Paul picked up at the top by Harkless again in the half court

Redick 21' Turnaround Jump Shot (5 PTS) (Paul 2 AST)
http://on.nba.com/1U8gEL2

Exact same as previous play - Paul picked up by Harkless. Are you sensing a pattern here?

Paul 6' Pullup Jump Shot (3 PTS) (Jordan 1 AST)
http://on.nba.com/1XiGU6d

Guess who was covering Paul - if you said "Mo Harkless" - you can pick up your Captain Obvious hat tomorrow AM at Will call.

Redick 26' 3PT Jump Shot (8 PTS) (Griffin 1 AST)
http://on.nba.com/1XiIk0u

Do I even need to tell you anymore who's guarding Paul? IF you're interested, Lilliard is indeed "hidden on...Mbah a Moute." - I will not insult you further by saying that guarding Redick is being "hidden" - considering it means you have to run off a billion screens and get your ass kicked.

MISS Paul 28' 3PT Running Pull-Up Jump Shot
http://on.nba.com/1XiIVPQ

Transition basket...so maybe somebody else...Nah, just fooling it was MO HARKLESS

MISS Redick 25' 3PT Jump Shot
http://on.nba.com/1XiJucu

It's pretty funny to see the exact same sets being run again and again and again - Harkless picks up Paul at the top, Lillard rests around hte baseline guarding the corner 3 from Mbah a Moute, ready to take the rebound.

MISS Paul 12' Jump Shot

Hey, at least Lillard gravitated towards Paul when Harkless was stuck behind a screener - so that's...something? Nah not really.

Paul 16' Turnaround Fadeaway (5 PTS)

It's NOT MO HARKLESS...yay, he gets a break, since he gets screened off - instead it's Al-Aminu on the switch, and Lillard swipes nonchalantly at the ball while....you guessed it, hanging in the corner doing nothing much else.

MISS Jordan 3' Alley Oop Layup

Transition - Plumlee gets stuck on Paul - Harkless makes a late effort to switch back , Lillard and Mbah-a-Moute trade recipes for Tuna casserole in the deep corner...again.

Mbah a Moute Illegal Screen Turnover (P1.T2)
http://on.nba.com/1YyNzrJ

Hey! Lilliard is actually INVOLVED IN A PLAY, selling hte contact on a baseline screen by Jordan and drawing the foul. He's not guarding Paul of course, one guess on who drew that THank-less task one MO time.

Griffin 3' Layup (2 PTS)
Harkless switch with al-Aminu. I am starting to yawn. Please make this eye test stop.

MISS Redick 19' Pullup Jump Shot
http://on.nba.com/1YyNZ14

Up to 3 Blazer defenders at least show on Paul in this sequence. Though redick takes the shot and the fourth defender is involved. Lillard is....not one of them, again drawing Mbah-a-Babysitter duty in the corner. He must be bored. I know I am.

Redick 27' 3PT Jump Shot (11 PTS) (Paul 3 AST)
http://on.nba.com/1YyO6Kg

Not amazing transition D by the blazers here - McCollum tries to take on Paul by pointing, Harden/Howard style, Redick is wide open, Lillard is doing...something on the free throw line.

SUB: Kaman FOR Harkless

And with that, I'm going to follow Mo's lead and am mercifully done with this exercise.

Damian Lillard guarded Chris Paul by design....approximately never, with first-choice lineups available.

Why would you do that? He's a lousy defender and he needs to be preserved for offense. Stotts made the right call here.

 

I watched the first two minutes of the Shaq video. There wasn't any bad defense.

Out of curiosity, are you even watching the videos you link? Or are you simply posting videos whose titles you like?

 

same exact thing I said in response to his videos lol. its crystal clear he has absolutely no clue what defense is and what is considered good and bad

 

You've lost this argument. My argument was that since Lillard guarded Paul in the first game of the playoff series, it's counter-intuitive to think that he's routinely hidden on 2nd/3rd tier offensive players.

I provided video proof that confirms my argument.

Sure, you proved that Lillard didn't guard Paul for game 2. But who cares? Why is that relevant? In what way does that disprove my argument?

 

Why do I need to watch every video when the first two minutes of the first video already disproves your argument?

And no, it's not a debate at all.

 

Seriously, you should watch the videos before you post them. The video says the clips come from the first 18 games of the 2015 season. That's the season when most of us felt he deserved the MVP.

How does that have any bearing on his 2016 season?

 

here we go again. trying to spin your dumb comments on a completely different matter.

you try and make yourself sound like you're this knowledgeable poster where your "eye test" confirms this and that. well the truth is your eye test based on what you post completely sucks and you shouldn't trust it. the same eyes that makes up false post like WB blowing by Curry last night every time.