1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

The Myth of the Rockets and 2010 Free Agency

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BimaThug, May 9, 2009.

  1. abc2007

    abc2007 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    8,303
    Likes Received:
    64
    If it's 5 year full MLE contract, he might accept it.

     
  2. saleem

    saleem Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2001
    Messages:
    30,256
    Likes Received:
    14,696
    I'm aware of that,but in reality it's not likely to happen. Manu will look for the best fit and we aren't that team. He is used to playing for a championship team/contender. I wouldn't be the least surprised if he takes less money and continues playing with the Spurs. Luis is going to be an expiring contract at the end of the year as well. We can offer him more than other teams,but don't be surprised if the Spurs make a run for him too. He could end up with them.
     
  3. abc2007

    abc2007 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    8,303
    Likes Received:
    64
    We will be a championship contender next season when Yao is healthy. :)

    I think the spurs should have extended his contract last summer. Actually, I don't think they will have a better chance than us to win the title next season.

    Of course, it's not just between the spurs and us. I have a feeling, Mark Cuban might offer a long decent contract to Manu.

    btw, I don't think the spurs will make a run for Scola. He didn't sign with the spurs because he and Duncan could not co-exisit on the court and Scola didn't want to backup Duncan.

     
  4. worzel gummidge

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    6,533
    Likes Received:
    150
    The spurs will be over the cap or at the most under the cap by a few k.

    As I 've posted previously, there could be friction between Manu and the Spurs front office, over his commitment to the Argentine national team. If Ginobili decides to play at the 2010 WC. I wouldn't be surprised if they held off extending his contract.
     
  5. abc2007

    abc2007 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    8,303
    Likes Received:
    64
    Actually, I don't think the spurs can require manu not to play for his national team next summer because Tony Parker will play as well.

     
  6. saleem

    saleem Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2001
    Messages:
    30,256
    Likes Received:
    14,696
    A lot depends on Tracy,if he is toast,no one will feel confident staying here. His expiring contract is of some value,but unless he does really well,we won't get any worthwhile offer for him. There are other teams apart from the Spurs that Luis may consider.

    Yao is brilliant one on one offensively,but unless he figures out how to handle fronting,it's easy to take him out of the game.Improved play making can help,but a lot will depend on him.

    Unfortunately both he and Tracy are brittle when it comes to health,as well.
     
  7. abc2007

    abc2007 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    8,303
    Likes Received:
    64
    That's not true. It will depend on Yao. Last season, the rockets have proved that they can win playoff series without Tmac.

     
  8. saleem

    saleem Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2001
    Messages:
    30,256
    Likes Received:
    14,696
    The Rockets have shown that they can get to the 2nd round with a healthy Yao,they aren't good enough to go all the way. Even Adelman recognizes this.
    That doesn't mean I'm upset at your comments.I respect you a lot,but I feel differently than you.
     
  9. abc2007

    abc2007 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    8,303
    Likes Received:
    64
    I respect you as well. No upset! The forum is the place for people to discuss things. Actually, the topic about Yao and Tmac is really old. We should move on. It's nice to talk to you. Good night!

     
  10. saleem

    saleem Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2001
    Messages:
    30,256
    Likes Received:
    14,696
    Hope we have a successful season. Thanks.
     
  11. worzel gummidge

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    6,533
    Likes Received:
    150
    I've got to disagree with this notion that the Rockets are only an attractive destination because of Tracy. If anything they'll see a bigger role with him gone. Players want to contribute not watch someone else win something. Even role players have pride you tell it isn't for show when the Rockets talk about being overlooked this season.

    Joe Johnson likes being top dog in Atlanta. I think he'd be an example of someone who might see Houston as an attractive destination with McGrady gone.
     
  12. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2008
    Messages:
    26,614
    Likes Received:
    211
    i agree. i think if stars want to win, houston is a great destination: great role players, coaches, and management.

    however, do you think more wants joe johnson? he's a stats guy after all. and i'm sure he looked at joe's playoff stats last year and might have felt a little nauseated.
     
  13. saleem

    saleem Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2001
    Messages:
    30,256
    Likes Received:
    14,696
    I'm well aware that role players have pride,and I expect them to fight very hard. However,vets like Luis and Shane are running out of time to get a championship.

    They are loyal and hard working,and Shane is signed till 2011. However,if someone gets a chance with a considerable role for a contender,they could definitely consider it,especially if Yao fails to do much.

    As far as McGrady is concerned,a replacement for him is an absolute must IMO,because he just can't bring back time to 04-05. No one wants him.The "best" offer allegedly for him is Dalembert.

    Joe Johnson is a good player,and will be cheaper than McGrady,but how far can he lead a young Rockets team?

    We can't be satisfied with making it to the 2nd round,in the future. DM and Les are trying to delay the inevitable IMO. We need to rebuild from scratch. That will cause more pain,but is more likely to yield bigger dividends in the long run.
     
  14. Melechesh

    Melechesh Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    1,446
    Likes Received:
    16
    Yes they are. :(
     
  15. Plowman

    Plowman Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 1999
    Messages:
    13,132
    Likes Received:
    14,944


    The Rockets were on their way to winning it all before Yao went down. If Yao can stay healthy (and that's a big "IF")....and we add a Joe Johnson with Tracy's capspace.....then that would put us way over the top.
     
  16. worzel gummidge

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    6,533
    Likes Received:
    150
    To me the idea a of re-building from scratch sounds ludicrous. That's asking Morey to jettison all their assets simply for youth. Young players who may or may not be NBA players.

    What would the Rockets re-build from? Unless they think Brooks or Ariza is a franchise player. Rockets would be pinning all their hopes on getting the overall no.1 pick otherwise it's a bust (ie, just adding another good player but not a star). No established stars will sign with the Rockets if they try to do a Minny or OKC.
     
  17. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2008
    Messages:
    26,614
    Likes Received:
    211
    how did you get that? we were down 2-1 to the lakers when yao went down?
     
  18. Plowman

    Plowman Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 1999
    Messages:
    13,132
    Likes Received:
    14,944
    On the other hand, there is a big part of me which unfortunately believes ( and has for a long tiime) that Yao WILL NOT stay healthy.Big men and those foot injuries...It's really a shame China overworked him.

    Whether we would go after the embarrassment of riches we could receive for Yao is open to debate I guess....and would have to frame any strategy for this next year.
     
  19. saleem

    saleem Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2001
    Messages:
    30,256
    Likes Received:
    14,696
    The Rockets were overachieving without a doubt,but only at home. The Lakers defeated us soundly on the road,with and without Yao. Once the Lakers started fronting Yao,things became much tighter for us. I respect your opinion,but I don't think Yao plus Joe Johnson and the rest of the team can get the job done.
     
  20. saleem

    saleem Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2001
    Messages:
    30,256
    Likes Received:
    14,696
    I'm afraid that there will be no embarrassment of riches for Yao,precisely for this reason,the risk of injury.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now