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The most pressing Rocket need is a defensive backup SG

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Zacatecas, Sep 28, 2002.

  1. Zacatecas

    Zacatecas Member

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    I think that this is the only missing piece for the Rockets. I like Torres' offensive ability, but he just doesn't have the talent to keep pace with Mobley insane offensive game; therefore, a defensive specialist coming in for Mobley is more important.

    Is there a defensive (Shandon Anderson like) player whom we could trade for? And is Mo Pete that good at the defensive end. I don't watch too many NBA games not featuring the Rockets, so I really don't know.

    Point guard is solid, except for a little overdribbling from Norris. Small forward is pretty set with Rice and Nachbar. Power Forward is set with Taylor and Griffin. The Center position is set with Cato and Ming. The shooting guard is Mobley, but who's the backup?

    Will there be any deals for a shooting guard?
     
  2. LeGrouper

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    Some Crackhead in here wanted to get Tony Gonzalez, can you believe that ****?
     
  3. ricerocket

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    defensive - shooting guard? :confused:

    That's an oxymoron! :D
     
  4. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    We don't need a SG backup. And certainly not a defensive one. Why would you need a defensive SG to smother the bench players on the other team for 4-8 minutes?? Mobley's defense is decent and certainly not terrible like Jeff Hornachek's was, who got abused to the point of Utah being forced to sit him for a weak player in Shandon Anderson. If Hornachek was not so abusable, they wouldn't have needed Shandon the "Jordan-stopper," as if Indiana ever considered sitting Reggie down for a "Jordan-stopper" :rolleyes:

    We don't need a SG backup, because Mobley is proven he can play hurt and can play as many minutes as anyone in the NBA, and Steve Francis can spell him at the 2. We are loaded at PG, so if Mobley can't suit up, that just means Moochie gets more minutes.

    besides, the CBA is full of Shandon Anderson-"defensive SGs" and we could sign a 10-day in a second, should Mobley suffer something bad.

    imo, it is more important to find a backup center that can play a ming style game (like a Longley-type guy) than it is to have a "defensive-specialist" getting 4-8 minutes a game, and going unused in the playoffs.
     
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    I thought Torres and Tito are supposed to be preety good defensively. That's enough...
     
  6. CriscoKidd

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    the need to get some "name" at backup sg is overrated imo, and just makes people feel good about the paper team.

    The lineup has no pressing needs.
     
  7. declan32001

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    If you look at the roster we just look crowded everywhere, but thinnest at sg. But I just don't think were really too thin there 'cos Steve's going to get minutes there and Nachbar, though I've never seen him play apparently has a good long range shot, so as long as he doesn't have to handle the ball a lot it seems he could get some minutes there too if necessary. The problem, is of course, if Cat gets injured for any length of time and the Rockets have to play by committee. But I think that's why Rudy really is hoping Tito Maddox makes the roster. his supposed ability to play the 1 or 2 gives us a little breathing room. My curiosity about Yao and Nachbar of course is huge, but I'll be scrutinizing Maddox more than anyone because he could be a heck of an x-factor. A lot of scouts seem to like his game but question his head.
     
  8. ChenZhen

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    What we need most is one versatile guy that can play both the 2 and 3...somebody who can bring some fire to this team defensively like Elie did in the championship years.
     
  9. ricerocket

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    What we need is for the season to start... :rolleyes:
     
  10. kidrock8

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    Yep. Why don't we just hold up the trophy now?

    Name or no name, we need a backup SG, who can give additional rest for Mobley. If we plan on going to the playoffs, it's imperative that Mobley doesn't run out of gas in May. Having him play 40+ mins per game is asinine. Also, what do we do in the event that Mobley gets hurt, or is in foul trouble?

    Some of you guys make it seem like depth is a bad thing.
     
  11. coke

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    I dink OT will be the backup at sg position...
     
  12. drpepper

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    Incase you guys didn't know, we just signed a potentially good backup in Pete Mickeal. I honestly believe he will outplay Oscar in training camp.
     
  13. smoothie

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    the rocks signed oz, tito, and tierre. that gives us 6 guards. it also makes us 3 deep at both positions. i dont think we will trade for another one.

    besides...cat and steve play 40 MPG. that leaves 16 minutes for other guards to play. count in moochie for 12 and you only have 4 minutes to spare.

    there is NO WAY that we trade for someone just to play garbage time when we have 3 guards (named at the top of the post) that deserve it.
     
  14. CriscoKidd

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    well whether you like it or not, Mobes is going to average close to 40 minutes a game. Francis and Nach will probably end up with the rest. It's not a pressing need to sign someone who will sit on the bench all year. It's a luxury, not a necessity.
     
  15. heypartner

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    kidrock8,

    sheesh. If you don't like Mobley and you think he should be a platoon man, just say so. But, he is not going to be tired in May for playing 40 mpg....that's a silly argument. Do Iverson and Payton ever look tired? Sprewell plays 40mpg for his whole career and is a great scorer and defensive stopper. Finley got 40. Pierce. Carter. Garnett. Francis. Do you really think Mobley is not in top of the class conditioning?? The great Hakeem played 41 and 40 in our two titles years...and he's carrying around the weight of NBA centers on his back.

    40 minutes does not tire out these players. Guys like Kobe get only 38, because that team has a lot of blow outs. If they didn't, Kobe would get as many minutes as Iverson.

    The difference between 41 and 38 is miniscule on how much it drains a star....miniscule. And pretty much all stars are in that range. You are in classic exaggeration mode. You just make these things up, I swear.

    Steve Francis is the backup SG. And Torres/Tito are the emergency men.
    If Mobley goes down, and we are in a playoff race, you can bet that Rudy will put Francis at SG for 10 games and Francis will still run the show.

    Trading Kenny for a backup 4-8 minute SG/emergency man is ludicrous. Hell, trading Cato for one is silly.
     

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